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2005-11-12 Fifth Column

white phosphorous expertise v "legacy journalism"

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Posted by Bright Pebbles 2005-11-12 12:38|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 All these lies just show how desparate the bad guys are to hide the truth! Oh, wait - that would make us the bad guys....

There's nothing worse than seeing your beautiful theory murdered by a brutal gang of facts!

Posted by Bobby 2005-11-12 14:46|| 2005-11-12 14:46|| Front Page Top

#2 Don't hold your breath waiting for the MSM to show facts like this.....

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-11-12 16:32|| 2005-11-12 16:32|| Front Page Top

#3 This article is TOTAL crap, from someone who knows less than nothing. WP isn't used in artillery flares - magnesium is used in illumination rounds. The article describes perfectly a magnesium illumination round.

WP is used for smoke rounds - on the ground. WP is NOT used to start fires - it is used to lay down a dense blanket of smoke, close to the ground. It burns - smolders really - but gives off heavy white smoke.

An article such as the above, which COMPLETELY mischaracterizes the use of WP, can only help the bad guys.

I'm a former Infantry Officer, with significant experience calling in smoke missions - mostly mortar, but also some 105 and 155 rounds.

Posted by Lone Ranger 2005-11-12 19:12|| 2005-11-12 19:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Agree with Lone Ranger. This is bad data. And mixed WP/HE missions are known by soldiers as "shake and bake." WP _can_ have an incendiary effect, but it is not very good.

The reality is that that flame weapons are not banned by the GC. The "flame weapons are inhumane" meme was begun by the communists during Vietnam to deny us use of these very effective weapons since the NVA and VC did not have the delivery systems to use them themselves. As Wretchard is always pointing out, these propaganda pieces have taken on a life of their own over the years and have become the "truth" since no one challenges them any more (and the US govt has lent them credence by withdrawing flamethrowers and napalm from the inventory).

Posted by 11A5S 2005-11-12 20:14|| 2005-11-12 20:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Saw an segment on FNC about this Italian show. Seems the main Character was discharged because of despression and PTSD. He is also wrote a very inflamatory book called "Kill Kill Kill" that is doing well in France. Wonder if the Muslims or the regular Frechies are buying the book. Bottom line iis that the srory fails the sniff test on many levels. First off no one in this guys unit, incuding teh embeds, can confirm his story. Second everything that he claims was learned second-hand. BTW, thanks for the Arty lesson folks!

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-11-12 22:02|| 2005-11-12 22:02|| Front Page Top

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