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2005-11-13 Afghanistan-Pak-India
India fences off Bangladesh to keep out Muslim terror
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Posted by john 2005-11-13 19:51|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 2500 miles? But Moose sez it's impossible for us to build 1500 miles on teh mexican border? Guess they figure a fence has value above its' cost?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-11-13 20:12||   2005-11-13 20:12|| Front Page Top

#2 India is also fencing the 1,800 mile border with Pakistan.
Posted by john 2005-11-13 20:15||   2005-11-13 20:15|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm not sure about the extent of the minelaying though.
A lot of the border minefields were cleared. Some were meant to be permanent.

India's deadly defence: the 1,800 mile long minefield

Indian army and security forces have embarked on an unprecedented project to lay hundreds of thousands of anti-personnel mines along the entire length of its 1,800-mile border with Pakistan.


The minefields will be up to three miles deep in places. Along with accompanying Indian defensive installations this will create the longest, fully-fortified border in the world, running from the Indian Ocean to the Himalayas. It will dwarf the western front of the first world war and the Maginot Line of the second and amount to south Asia's equivalent of the Berlin Wall.
Posted by john 2005-11-13 20:19||   2005-11-13 20:19|| Front Page Top

#4 Damn. Makes me wish I had a "Fences-R-US" franchise for India.
Posted by Brett 2005-11-13 20:19||   2005-11-13 20:19|| Front Page Top

#5 The section of fence in Jammu and Kashmir uses sensors imported from the US and Israel.
Posted by john 2005-11-13 20:22||   2005-11-13 20:22|| Front Page Top

#6 The Dems are always looking for an excuse to raise taxes. If they promised to use the money exclusively for building a fence along our entire southern border, they could put a tax increase to a vote and most Americans would vote yes.

Except for liberals, of course.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2005-11-13 21:18|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2005-11-13 21:18|| Front Page Top

#7 and Anonymoose
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-11-13 21:28||   2005-11-13 21:28|| Front Page Top

#8 Frank G: Get real. Not all fences are the same. Between India and Pakistan is probably little more than concertina wire, improved over time. The fence proposed for the US-Mexican border is a 15-foot-tall steel wall, which even you might agree is a tad more challenging to both erect and pay for.

Meh, what's five to seven billion dollars, right?

http://tinyurl.com/dc9ym
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-11-13 22:00||   2005-11-13 22:00|| Front Page Top

#9 no more expensive than the consequences
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-11-13 22:03||   2005-11-13 22:03|| Front Page Top

#10 My point was that the resources should be used to most effect, not just an expensive blanket solution that those of ill-will would attempt to thwart.

I *agree* that a fence is good--for certain parts of the border, about 15-20% of it. By putting a fence there, and there first, the great majority of illegal aliens will be kept out. Reducing 2M/year to 200k a year would be all the difference in the world. Makes great sense and would work like a charm. Plus the added benefit that it could be put up in one-fifth the time, and one-fifth the cost, as a whole fence.

Remember that we also need large detention facilities *right now*, for those Mexicans and especially non-Mexicans who get caught. We will need those facilities for at least five years, even if we begin wall construction today. And those facilities cost a hell of a lot of money, too. The lack of those facilities is the lame excuse the feds use right now for "catch and release".

Then, you also use other means. For example, you try to improve the system for temporary work permits. That would help separate "the wheat from the chaff" among the immigrants. The good ones come through the front door, and you know that the ones trying to sneak through the back door are the bad ones.

You also pay Mexican citizens to report non-Mexicans trying to sneak across the border, thus closing the potential terrorist hole.

More solutions make for a better overall result.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-11-13 22:29||   2005-11-13 22:29|| Front Page Top

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