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2005-11-14 Home Front: Culture Wars

Newdow Again: This time it's US Currency

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Posted by .com 2005-11-14 05:07|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 What a silly man. Other atheists manage to survive this country without getting themselves in a constant tizzy. The intelligent ones find they have enough to think about just minding their own business and having the occasional genial discussion with others of different faiths, but a similar world view -- our lovely Rantburg atheist contingent comes immediately to mind.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-11-14 06:04|| 2005-11-14 06:04|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm an atheist and find this ridiculous. Way too silly to comment on.

Posted by phil_b 2005-11-14 06:20|| 2005-11-14 06:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Newdow wins this one ...

Posted by doc 2005-11-14 07:43|| 2005-11-14 07:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Thank God, I'm an atheist.

Voltaire.

Posted by SwissTex 2005-11-14 07:54|| 2005-11-14 07:54|| Front Page Top

#5 I think it's more about getting his name in the papers than actually getting the "In God We Trust" off of the currency, guys.

He'll do anything for the attention, including using a daughter he has little to do with to get "under God" out of the pledge.

He's more of an attention whore than an atheist.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-11-14 07:55|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-11-14 07:55|| Front Page Top

#6 As an atheist, I find him offensive, a media whore and in need of immediate execution.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-11-14 08:14|| 2005-11-14 08:14|| Front Page Top

#7 OK, who wants to chip in and buy his tombstone?

(NB: not a death threat, but really a fund to buy his tombstone once he dies naturally. I'm thinking a forty-foot high cross would be appropriate.)

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-11-14 08:19|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-11-14 08:19|| Front Page Top

#8 He's an athiest, piss him off while still alive to hear it.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2005-11-14 09:57|| 2005-11-14 09:57|| Front Page Top

#9 IIRC teh Supremem Court has already ruled on this. He's just an attention whore. He needs to lose his job, friends, home.....kinda like Job....who's he gonna turn to?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-14 09:59|| 2005-11-14 09:59|| Front Page Top

#10 That he may be a media whore doesn't necessarily mean he's not fighting for a good cause.

Besides the guy's personal motives in bringing up the issue, more significant is the issue itself. Does the "In God We Trust" motto inswws endorse belief in a deity or not? And if yes, should it remain the motto of a country that considers itself to have a wall of separation between church and state?

Now, you're ofcourse free to answer "yes" in both questions, if you think that tradition trumps the wall-of-separation principle. That's also a legitimate position to take. But it's not the *only* legitimate position.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-11-14 11:15|| 2005-11-14 11:15|| Front Page Top

#11 yawn.

Posted by 2b 2005-11-14 11:17|| 2005-11-14 11:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Hey if Newdow doesn't like "in God We Trust" on his money I will gladly trade him for some that doesn't have that annotation.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-11-14 11:19|| 2005-11-14 11:19|| Front Page Top

#13 Aris,

Newdow first wasted everyone's time over the Pledge issue, despite the fact that he had no legal standing to bring the suit and the Supreme Court had made saying it voluntary over 60 years ago. This is just grandstanding again. He's bucking for O'Hair's reputation.

Posted by Ernest Brown 2005-11-14 12:02|| saturninretrograde.blogspot.com]">[saturninretrograde.blogspot.com] 2005-11-14 12:02|| Front Page Top

#14 The separation of church and state issue has really snowballed. The Constitution only says that Congress shall make no law establishing a religion. The "In God We Trust" motto on money is in no way a government establishment of a religion, to my way of thinking. So it offends him. Tough noogies.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2005-11-14 12:25|| 2005-11-14 12:25|| Front Page Top

#15 Atheism is also a religion - a belief in no god - but the ACLU and Newdow want that to be the only religion. That's what the Constitution prohibited - one state-mandated religion. We are headed for a state-mandated, atheist religion.

Posted by Bobby 2005-11-14 12:44|| 2005-11-14 12:44|| Front Page Top

#16 "Newdow says the words "In Good We Trust" on currency is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion. He adds it, "excludes people who don't believe in God."

Stoopid logique for a stoopid person:

"In God We Trust" is on only one side of a given piece of US currency. This means that 50% of every piece of US legal tender conforms to the Atheist perspective. Atheists comprise vastly less than 50% of US population, so, when it comes to money they are already getting WAY more of their ideals accommodated than is statistically justified.

Now, back to debating flat-earthers...

Posted by Hyper">Hyper 2005-11-14 13:16|| 2005-11-14 13:16|| Front Page Top

#17 Atheism is also a religion - a belief in no god

good point.

Posted by 2b 2005-11-14 13:18|| 2005-11-14 13:18|| Front Page Top

#18 Always nice to have Aris lecture us on American government, culture, and mores.....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-14 14:33|| 2005-11-14 14:33|| Front Page Top

#19 Atheism is also a religion - a belief in no god

This is incorrect. All theistic belief structures, i.e., God-based religions, require scientifically unproven or unprovable faith in the existence of a supernatural being.

To believe that there is no God does not require any sort of supernatural manifestation or suspension of disbelief. Ergo, atheism is not a "religion." While it is a belief structure, is does not require faith as a component of any pursuit thereof.

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-14 14:52|| 2005-11-14 14:52|| Front Page Top

#20 Zenster (#19): Agnosticism is not a religion... Atheism makes an unprovable assertion that there are no god(s) anywhere in the universe and there never have been any... Does that sound like a statement of faith to you or not? ;)

I rather enjoyed a Steven DenBeste take on it, scroll down til you get to the musings on the "Cult of Fred"

Posted by magpie 2005-11-14 16:06|| 2005-11-14 16:06|| Front Page Top

#21 Ernest Brown: "He's bucking for O'Hair's reputation."

If I were an atheist I'd wish her fate on him. Since I'm a Christian, I won't [but, damn, it's hard not to].

Posted by xbalanke 2005-11-14 17:58|| 2005-11-14 17:58|| Front Page Top

#22 From a book of humorous stories (and book title) by Jean Shepherd:

Sign in a bar:
+--------------------------------------+ | In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash | +--------------------------------------+

Posted by DMFD 2005-11-14 19:37|| 2005-11-14 19:37|| Front Page Top

#23 xbalanke - I'm not Christian. Want me to do it for you? ;-p

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