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2005-11-15 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Steve 2005-11-15 15:40|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Yeah, there's a good 7% of the vote up for grabs.
They are crazy in the head, but they are up for grabs.

Posted by Ebbomolet Glereng9559 2005-11-15 16:04|| 2005-11-15 16:04|| Front Page Top

#2 "Peace Action (the merger of SANE and The Nuclear Freeze)"

ROFL! YJCMT(F)SU.

I used to go to the "peace concerts" after my hair grew back. I got lots of Piece Action. It was anything but SANE. This lot sounds like the ones who went home alone back then.

Posted by .com 2005-11-15 16:07|| 2005-11-15 16:07|| Front Page Top

#3
I'm lookin' but I don't see Hillary's name on there. hmmm

Posted by macofromoc 2005-11-15 16:10|| 2005-11-15 16:10|| Front Page Top

#4 usual assholes

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-15 17:18|| 2005-11-15 17:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Pray for food poisoning

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-11-15 17:18|| 2005-11-15 17:18|| Front Page Top

#6 It's so nice that my fine state of residence is represented not once, but twice. Take a bow, guys!

Posted by Raj 2005-11-15 17:20|| 2005-11-15 17:20|| Front Page Top

#7 TRE

Posted by Uneatch Theaque2103 2005-11-15 18:09|| 2005-11-15 18:09|| Front Page Top

#8 History follows currents because peoples behavior remain generally the same -

Copperheads (Peace Democrats)

Although the Democratic party had broken apart in 1860, during the secession crisis Democrats in the North were generally more conciliatory toward the South than were Republicans. They called themselves Peace Democrats; their opponents called them Copperheads because some wore copper pennies as identifying badges.
A majority of Peace Democrats supported war to save the Union, but a strong and active minority asserted that the Republicans had provoked the South into secession; that the Republicans were waging the war in order to establish their own domination, suppress civil and states rights, and impose "racial equality"; and that military means had failed and would never restore the Union.
Peace Democrats were most numerous in the Midwest, a region that had traditionally distrusted the Northeast, where the Republican party was strongest, and that had economic and cultural ties with the South. The Lincoln administration's arbitrary treatment of dissenters caused great bitterness there. Above all, anti-abolitionist Midwesterners feared that emancipation would result in a great migration of blacks into their states.
As was true of the Democratic party as a whole, the influence of Peace Democrats varied with the fortunes of war. When things were going badly for the Union on the battlefield, larger numbers of people were willing to entertain the notion of making peace with the Confederacy. When things were going well, Peace Democrats could more easily be dismissed as defeatists. But no matter how the war progressed, Peace Democrats constantly had to defend themselves against charges of disloyalty. Revelations that a few had ties with secret organizations such as the Knights of the Golden Circle helped smear the rest.
The most prominent Copperhead leader was Clement L. Valladigham of Ohio, who headed the secret antiwar organization known as the Sons of Liberty. At the Democratic convention of 1864, where the influence of Peace Democrats reached its high point, Vallandigham persuaded the party to adopt a platform branding the war a failure, and some extreme Copperheads plotted armed uprisings. However, the Democratic presidential candidate, George B. McClellan, repudiated the Vallandigham platform, victories by Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman and Phillip H. Sheridan assured Lincoln's reelection, and the plots came to nothing.
With the conclusion of the war in 1865 the Peace Democrats were thoroughly discredited. Most Northerners believed, not without reason, that Peace Democrats had prolonged war by encouraging the South to continue fighting in the hope thatthe North would abandon the struggle.
Source: "Historical Times Encyclopedia of the Civil War" Edited by Patricia L. Faust

Posted by Thaviger Spaiter4534 2005-11-15 18:32|| 2005-11-15 18:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Barney Frank (D-MA)????

Well they all sure keep mighty fine company.

Posted by Besoeker 2005-11-15 18:55|| 2005-11-15 18:55|| Front Page Top

#10 TS34534:
It's true Lincoln won based on the victory of Sherman, however, Sherman was unopposed on his "March to the Sea" except by State Militia. If the casualty figures for Spotsylvania Court House and Cold Harbour had been allowed to be published it's doubtful Lincoln would have been re-elected. Lincoln surpressed the figures until after the election. Lincoln's userpation of the
Constitution guarenteed the survival of the Union. The Ends Justify the Means, as the saying goes and I, for one Alabaman, agree on this particular ocassion. The one thing I don't like is that the Lincoln administration assured that the Federal Government was SUPREME over States Rights. It's the lesser of two evils: States' Rights to continue slavery or a VERY strong and overarching Federal Government with a "one size fits all" mentallity. I have to go with the Federal Government and try to change the course down the road.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2005-11-15 19:09|| 2005-11-15 19:09|| Front Page Top

#11 Deacon - The SOUTH shall RISE again!

Posted by Bobby 2005-11-15 21:05|| 2005-11-15 21:05|| Front Page Top

#12 Interesting comment Thaviger. So can we now call these folks Neo-Copperheads

Posted by DMFD 2005-11-15 21:21|| 2005-11-15 21:21|| Front Page Top

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