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2019-11-20 Government

Navy Could Still Remove Gallagher from SEALs

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Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Crosscheck the promotion lists with any one who approves the removal and "...or out" them.

Posted by charger 2019-11-20 00:10|| 2019-11-20 00:10|| Front Page Top

#2 ^^ Agreed! Force them into early retirement, after reducing their ranks, by a factor of two or more.

We don't need those "never Trumper"people in the military, bad enough that they're in universities.

Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2019-11-20 00:53|| 2019-11-20 00:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Does “the Navy” plan on overruling President Trump, their commander-in-chief?

Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-20 00:53|| 2019-11-20 00:53|| Front Page Top

#4 Not the best specimen to keep I guess.

Posted by newc 2019-11-20 00:57|| 2019-11-20 00:57|| Front Page Top

#5 What happened to civilian control, to the notion of CinC?
This creeping praetorianism needs to be halted in its tracks.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-20 01:49|| 2019-11-20 01:49|| Front Page Top

#6 I just hope better sense prevails and not some misplaced loyalty to the anti-Trump club. Because not even the most pathetic militaries do that. Let's just see what happens. But it would be good to know the identities of officers who even propose to apply their own 'managerial acumen' to something already settled by the CinC.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-20 02:06|| 2019-11-20 02:06|| Front Page Top

#7 The reassignment of Gallagher might be a wise decision.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-20 03:59|| 2019-11-20 03:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Wow. Good one #5. "Praetorianism definition, the control of a society by force or fraud, especially when exercised through titular officials and by a powerful minority."

Posted by Dale 2019-11-20 05:13|| 2019-11-20 05:13|| Front Page Top

#9 IIUC he is going to retire anyway as they have created a toxic work environment. A review of the Brass pushing this is in order. Remove the Obama tools

Posted by Frank G 2019-11-20 06:33|| 2019-11-20 06:33|| Front Page Top

#10 The reassignment of Gallagher might be a wise decision.

To???

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-20 06:35|| 2019-11-20 06:35|| Front Page Top

#11 To be their boss.

Posted by gorb 2019-11-20 08:44|| 2019-11-20 08:44|| Front Page Top

#12 And put him where, cooking?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-20 09:21|| 2019-11-20 09:21|| Front Page Top

#13 I think the issue is manifestly one of authority and by extension chain of command. That and this disease of competitive woke virtue signalling.

That said, personally I was deeply unimpressed with Chief Gallagher, admittedly from what little I know. Right off the bat, it is extraordinarily unwise to go around photographing your own criminal activity, or what can be interpreted as such. Arrogant or stupid, well small matter since
it took him to the same destination regardless.

Then there was his entrance to the court, and yes I suppose I am an old fud with a poor attitude and a filthy mouth. But his cover belongs on his f'ing head not as an inconvenient after thought in hand.

The ubiquity of Starbucks is no doubt a wonder of modern times, but waltzing around outdoors to a serious official proceeding with a G'damned coffee cup in hand is something I would have cut him off at the ankles for, not to mention the hand holding with who ever the Hell she was/is.

If you're going to wave a banner of 'Elite' and notify every third stranger on earth of your status, well, at some point you need to behave that way and respect for the uniform and military courtesy is a serious issue, to me at least. I'm not talking about life in the field whether training or the real deal. It was a piss poor performance, and no, that was not a randomly chosen word.

I don't think he should have been there, but he was his own brilliant travel agent on that excursion.

Posted by Cesare 2019-11-20 09:36|| 2019-11-20 09:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Dale, this is what I had in mind (see the bolder part esp.):

The Praetorian Guard (Latin: cohortes praetoriae) was an elite unit of the Imperial Roman army whose members served as personal bodyguards and intelligence for the Roman emperors. During the era of the Roman Republic, the Praetorians served as a small escort force for high-ranking officials such as senators or provincial governors like procurators, and also serving as bodyguards for high ranking officers within the Roman legions. With the republic's transition into the Roman Empire, however, the first emperor, Augustus, founded the Guard as his personal security detail.

Although they continued to serve in this capacity for roughly three centuries, the Guard became notable for its intrigue and interference in Roman politics, to the point of overthrowing emperors and proclaiming their successors. In 312, the Guard was disbanded by Constantine the Great.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-20 10:20|| 2019-11-20 10:20|| Front Page Top

#15 In our own time, praetorianism is a feature most often associated with corrupt, feeble, basket-case governments in the third world: Pakistan especially, Nigeria, most of South America during the late 20th century etc.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-20 10:23|| 2019-11-20 10:23|| Front Page Top

#16 It's not "praetorianism" it's mandarinate.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-20 11:52|| 2019-11-20 11:52|| Front Page Top

#17 Man-predatorate?

Posted by Lex 2019-11-20 11:54|| 2019-11-20 11:54|| Front Page Top

#18 ...it is extraordinarily unwise to go around photographing your own criminal activity, or what can be interpreted as such.

Well, sort of. Then again after Malmedy, very few SS were taken prisoner.

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-11-20 11:56|| 2019-11-20 11:56|| Front Page Top

#19 ^ True. The postwar didn't turn out so well for SS-Standartenführer Piepus

Posted by Lex 2019-11-20 12:06|| 2019-11-20 12:06|| Front Page Top

#20 #18 According to my uncle every German captured by soviet army was asked to show left armpit. These who had SS tattoo where taken aside and shot. These who had wound dressing on their left arms ...

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-20 12:12|| 2019-11-20 12:12|| Front Page Top

#21 Cesare at #13 is absolutely right.

While I would give a wide margin for actions like offing captives, it does not serve the SEALs reputation or the general image of the troops if you're doing silly stunts like selfies with bodies.

Even so, your unit is supposed to stand up for you. If special forces are going to have to work under the same pressure as Brooklyn cops...

Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-20 15:30|| 2019-11-20 15:30|| Front Page Top

#22 I agree with you and cesare, dron. Slap him on the wrist with a stern warning though. They are there too kill , don't throw one of our better killers a scapegoat though.

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