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Scientists propose conservation parks on Mars

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Posted by Anonymoose 2004-11-28 9:15:54 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Scientists propose conservation parks on Mars
He says the crashes are as irresponsible as dropping robots over the Antarctic

Moonbat_mode ON ## Or is that marsbat?
We must protect the innocent martians from the greedy, exploitative Americans.
Moonbat_mode OFF

And so it begins...

Posted by N Guard 2004-11-28 9:55:21 AM|| 2004-11-28 9:55:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 ...Okay - at the risk of being labeled a Moonbat(TM), I believe we should have some idea of places where we don't want to drop survey landers - permafrost, for instance, because it is kinda fragile. And once we're there, hell yes, let's establish parks at Tharsus, or Mons Olympus, because these are places humans should see as unspoiled as possible, just like Yosemite or Everest.
This asshat, however, seems to be suggesting that we will be sending wave after wave of voyeuristic, autonomous golf carts to go charging around the Martian landscape like droids invading a planet in a Star Wars movie. WHAT in our history of planetary exploration so far makes him think this will happen? As a rule, NASA has done everything in its power to make its probes safe and as non-intrusive as possible given the demands of the mission. After all, these things have to be designed and built in accordance with Terran safety and environmental regs - and my understanding is that at least one or two missions have compromised their eventual goals in order to stay within those regs. These two need to remember that the 'astro' in their job descriptions means you cannot simply transfer your political and moral beliefs upwards - you are scientists whose job is to EXPAND knowledge, not restrict it.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-11-28 11:45:19 AM|| 2004-11-28 11:45:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I've always been a proponent of a permanent playground/park on Mons Veneris

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-28 11:57:49 AM|| 2004-11-28 11:57:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 ROFL!!! Great minds... Lol!

Posted by .com 2004-11-28 11:59:14 AM|| 2004-11-28 11:59:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 "Or is that marsbat?"

That would be phobobat or deimobat, your pick.

Mons Veneris? Is there such a thing on Mars? I thought that Alternative 3 was just a fiction.

Posted by CornÃ®liÃ«s 2004-11-28 12:05:25 PM|| 2004-11-28 12:05:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I just love this shit: ""It is the right of every person to" [insert your favorite whatever here]... Really? Point it out... And it is my "right" to ridicule such obviously buffoonery. Note to Cockell and Horneck: there is no there there, boys.

"However, establishing the parks would present an enormous challenge for international law."
Woohoo! A brand-new bureaucracy! Even Diplomad would be impressed by the futuristic ingenuity of it, lol!

Frank - If only it wasn't located next to a toxic waste plant, sigh. ;-)

Posted by .com 2004-11-28 12:19:12 PM|| 2004-11-28 12:19:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 We should also ban building secret bases to study inter-dimensional travel on Phobos.

Posted by AJackson 2004-11-28 12:20:28 PM|| 2004-11-28 12:20:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 The basic thing to remember about people like this is that they NEVER produce anything but hot air and fatuous studies. They wait until productive people do something and then try to take over. If they would quit talking and actually work, people might pay attention to their ideas other than as a source of amusement.

Posted by RWV 2004-11-28 12:32:11 PM|| 2004-11-28 12:32:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 just ask for a Supersite cleanup ;-)

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-28 12:35:13 PM|| 2004-11-28 12:35:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Surface area of Mars is equal to what? The Eurasian landmass. We've dropped equipment onto the surface a combined size of what? A small condo perhaps? It's hard to get perspective on this sort of thing but it really does seem like the problem is contained.

Posted by RJ Schwarz 2004-11-28 1:01:08 PM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-11-28 1:01:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 The Problem is that useless fools like this even get a shot at a reading of their crackpot ideas/ideals. I suggest a good shit beating shoud be had to quell such asshattery. This paper is designed with the sole purpose of sucking up grant money, government funding and, limiting human expansion into space. Let the shit pounding commence.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-11-28 1:29:50 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2004-11-28 1:29:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Ship his ass to Mars, that he can see it with his own eyes... as they explode out of his head.

I suppose this means they're opposed to terraforming, too.

Posted by Dishman 2004-11-28 2:32:39 PM|| 2004-11-28 2:32:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Lol, Dish!

Terraforming! Eeeek!

Heart attacks all over the eco-wankosphere!

Posted by .com 2004-11-28 2:36:41 PM|| 2004-11-28 2:36:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 A microbiologist should know better. To quota a movie, "Life overcomes, it escapes, it finds a way."

Trying to corral earth-critters to certain sections of a biosphere is a hopless cause.

Posted by mojo 2004-11-28 4:33:14 PM|| 2004-11-28 4:33:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Oh, all right.

ENVIRONNMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT -- MARS

No environment, therefore no impact.

The end.

Posted by jackal 2004-11-28 10:08:18 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2004-11-28 10:08:18 PM|| Front Page Top

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