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2003-04-02 Fifth Column

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Posted by growler 2003-04-02 03:45 pm|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 2 existing "memes" and one new one.

1. The iraqis have "beat the spread"
Response - we've taken half the country in 2 weeks, and with only 4 divisions. And we'd have gone faster but we were being careful about civilians
2. They're being "deceitful" - well thats always what the outnumbered and outgunned to
Response - being deceitful isnt the problem - using (involuntary) human shields, and other techniques that violate the Geneva conventions is. These take advantage of our reluctance to harm civilians - they would be useless against a ruthless enemy - they weaken the protections civilians get, and lead to needless civilian deaths.

3. Regime is showing restrain about using WMD
Response - we dont why - could be they no longer have effective control, or that RG officers are frightened to be considered war criminals for using them, or that theyre waiting for the right moment. The swipe about US WMD's is a cheap shot - we have no bio weapons, and have been destroying our stocks of cold war era chem. weapons pursuant to treaty.

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-04-02 16:02:01|| 2003-04-02 16:02:01|| Front Page Top

#2 It could also be that they know that doctrine calls for us to respond with WMD if WMD are used on us. There's nothing that says we'll use the same WMDs. We've effectively only got one type left...

Posted by Fred 2003-04-02 16:05:44|| 2003-04-02 16:05:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Arundhati - share the laugh with Saddam, seems you two already share other traits too.

Posted by marek 2003-04-02 16:17:05|| 2003-04-02 16:17:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Re:Arundhati

You know, the Julius Streicher memorial defendant's cage at the upcoming war crimes tribunal is getting mighty crowded.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2003-04-02 17:37:13|| [www.nuclearspace.com] 2003-04-02 17:37:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Not very long ago another nation whipped the US ass in Indo-China. And people have not forgotten the Ma-Ling massacres committed by the US there. All the cheap lies about preventing civilian deaths lays exposed in front of the Baghdad market bombing and the Maternity Hospital bombing.
The so-called brave US army keeps the Kurds and the British up front as cannon fodder and then talks big, as always. Close combat is not their bit and it is US which nuked innocent civilians in Japan when Japan was on the verge of surrender. Americans are a nation of incestuous assassins which fact you can corroborate by the racial killings there; the number of Presidents and would be Presidents assassinated; the hate campaigns against their own nationals who don't tow the establishment line (and they call themselves a free nation); they are the single largest users and possessors of WMD and with the highest number of gun related violence on the face of the earth. On top of all this, just see who is running the show around Bush, all of them selected and not elected people. Some democracy!

Posted by Anonymous 2003-04-02 18:27:24|| 2003-04-02 18:27:24|| Front Page Top

#6 FYI, its Me-Lai, and Lt Calley - those were intentional, the current casualties are accidental - were we to go after the civilain populace, we'd simply carpet bomb with the far cheaper "dumb bombs", and inflict 10's of thousands of casualties a day.

Similar verbal devastations can be done to the rest of your polemic but factless diatribe, but your argiments are soo transparent as to not need refutation for a rational audience.

Reductio ad absurdum, QED. You made it far too easy.

Nice try at a troll - but you forgot to put LOTS OF CAPS and typos, and the usual spittle-flying multiple exclamations (!!!!!!).

Anyway, please dont feed him any more - he's so full of s**t he's bursting at the seams.

And by the way, troll, at least have the courage to post with a psedonym. Sheesh.

Posted by OldSpook 2003-04-02 18:42:46|| 2003-04-02 18:42:46|| Front Page Top

#7 Anonymous, anyone who ignores communist atrocities in Vietnam is a party to those atrocities, as you are a party to saddam's use of human shields and his other crimes when you support his propaganda line and conflate his thugs with the Iraqi nation in general. Indeed, lying pop-culture baboons like you are the whole reason terrorists believe that their evil acts will accomplish their goals, and the whole reason Saddam chose war in the belief that our threats could not be carried through. There is blood on your hands, and on the hands of the culture, worldview, and ideology of power-seeking rhetoric that you represent. You will be held to account for it.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2003-04-02 18:44:14|| [www.nuclearspace.com] 2003-04-02 18:44:14|| Front Page Top

#8 Americans are a nation of incestuous assassins...

Leave my family out of it, and you might be onto something. I was feeling kind of left out of the "gun related violence" scene, all loaded up with nowhere to go, until your post. Stop by for all the close combat you want.

Posted by Mark IV 2003-04-02 18:53:05|| 2003-04-02 18:53:05|| Front Page Top

#9 Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to victory.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2003-04-02 19:12:53|| [www.nuclearspace.com] 2003-04-02 19:12:53|| Front Page Top

#10 I figure anonymous is either Murat...or Kim Jong Il.

Posted by tu3031 2003-04-02 21:21:57|| 2003-04-02 21:21:57|| Front Page Top

#11 Typical anti-war protestor, they're losing so they have to start screaming louder.

Posted by RW 2003-04-02 21:31:39|| 2003-04-02 21:31:39|| Front Page Top

#12 You know, it's absolutely child's play to keep track of where posts come from to a site like this. In fact, the information can pinpoint a particular COMPUTER. Yet these toads believe by posting "anonymously", they can hide.

There's no place left to hide, there's no place left to run. If you aren't willing to grant the rest of the world the same rights you wish for yourself, you're going to very soon be road kill - on the information superhighway, and on the local highway. Peace, prosperity, and freedom!

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-04-02 22:03:23|| 2003-04-02 22:03:23|| Front Page Top

#13 ....incestuous assassins which fact you can corroborate by the racial killings there; the number of Presidents and would be Presidents assassinated; the hate campaigns against their own nationals who don't tow the establishment line (and they call themselves a free nation); they are the single largest users and possessors of WMD and with the highest number of gun related violence on the face of the earth.
Anonymous, good thing you started that sentence with "Americans", almost thought you were talking about Saddam's family there.....

Posted by Former Russian Major 2003-04-02 22:04:21|| 2003-04-02 22:04:21|| Front Page Top

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