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2003-09-09 Middle East

IDF kills two Hamas terrorists in Hebron

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Posted by Frank G 2003-09-09 10:17:32 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "as well as a Palestinian adult, who walked out of the surrounded building wounded and was transferred to Hadassah Ein Kerem hospital. Following his treatment he will be interrogated,"

by the Hadassah ladies?

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-9-9 11:01:40 AM|| 2003-9-9 11:01:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 as well as a Palestinian adult, who walked out of the surrounded building wounded and was transferred to Hadassah Ein Kerem hospital. Following his treatment he will be interrogated," by the Hadassah ladies?

What? He didn't want to continue fighting to the death? What about his virgins?

Posted by Charles 2003-9-9 2:22:14 PM|| 2003-9-9 2:22:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "After evacuating the building, troops sent in two Palestinians, to check if it was empty."
Is this like being drafted to be a Tunnel Rat? I can't picture any Paleo volunteering to do this, since they'd be hung from a lamppost the next day for collaboration, but what good would they do otherwise? Just bait to see if someone shot at them? Shit, they're not gonna tell the Israelis if there's someone in there... This is a weird tidbit, IMO.

Posted by .com (a.k.a. Abu This!) 2003-9-9 4:25:08 PM|| 2003-9-9 4:25:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Oops, sorry. The answer to why there are some confusing and illogical bits, sprinkled here and there, is given at the bottom.

Frank warned us: "Associated Press contributed to this report"

Sheesh, sorry about that. I'll pay better attention next time.

Posted by .com (a.k.a. Abu This!) 2003-9-9 4:28:26 PM|| 2003-9-9 4:28:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 .com - you caught that...very good!

Posted by Frank G 2003-9-9 4:57:28 PM|| 2003-9-9 4:57:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 MORE: From the JPost -

Hebron Hamas commander killed in battle with IDF forces
IDF forces killed Hebron Hamas commander Ahmed Bader, who dispatched the suicide bomber to the Jerusalem bus in August.

Senior Hamas commander in Hebron, Ahmed Bader, who dispatched the suicide bomber who blew up in the Jerusalem bus three weeks ago killing twenty-two Israelis, was identified as one of two terrorists killed in the city by security forces on Tuesday following intensive gun battles that ensued throughout the day.

Bader's body together with that of his assistant Izzadin Misek were discovered lying in the lift shaft of the first floor of the eight-story building undercover troops had surrounded before dawn in an operation to nab senior Hamas gunmen holed up inside.

Near the bodies, security forces found a Kalshnikov rifle, a gun, a grenade launcher , ammunition clips and night vision equipment. Security officials said the Hamas infrastructure in the city was responsible for the deaths of scores of Israelis. Chief of Staff Lt.Gen. Moshe Ya'alon said the Hamas cell was planning to perpetrate an attack in the coming days.

At nightfall security forces blew up the first few floors of the building but did not continue searching the higher floors fearing it may be booby-trapped. IDF officials said the building would be demolished in its entirety during the night and that no other fugitives remained inside.

Palestinians reported that Thaer Sayuri, a twelve-year-old boy who lived in an adjacent building was also killed after IDF tank shells fired several rounds at the building where the fugitives were hiding out. According to the reports, Sayuri stood on the balcony of his third floor apartment watching the operation outside when he was hit by shrapnel. He died shortly after arriving at the local hospital , doctors said he had suffered shrapnel wounds to the face. The IDF Spokesman said the army is investigating the claim.

Aside from Sayuri, Palestinians reported that a young girl Nisreen Hamadiyeh, 10 , was also wounded in addition to a Palestinian man identified as Bassem al Dajani who wounded in the first hours of the operation and was taken to Hadassah Hospital Ein Kerem and will later be questioned by the Shin Bet. Israeli officials were seeking to determine whether al Dajani was one of the wanted Palestinians or a civilian. Palestinians claim he was a factory worker and suffered a neck wound.

In the early morning hours, acting on an intelligence tip-off, IDF undercover troops from the elite Duvdevan unit accompanied by armored units surrounded the building of 27 apartments that belongs to the Kawasmeh family, located in the Abu Kteila neighborhood near the Polytechnic College.

Abdullah Kawasmeh, considered to have masterminded numerous attacks against Israelis was killed by security forces in the city in June when he attempted to evade arrest. Bader who was his deputy then became the senior Hamas commander in the city.

The soldiers using loudspeakers called out to residents to leave the building when they came under heavy gunfire from the gunmen inside. A fierce gun battle erupted and tanks at the site fired a number of shells. Throughout the day, sporadic gunfire between the sides continued, with the troops remaining outside the building. In the afternoon, tanks again fired a number of rounds and light weapons fire before security forces broke into the building where they engaged in a gun battle with Bader and Masek who hid in the lift shaft.

The soldiers searched the first floor of the building and towards nightfall placed charges and blew the first floors up. Security officials deemed the operation a success. They noted that while it had continued for many hours, drawing conclusions from a similar operation launched in Nablus in which a naval commando was killed after entering the building where Hamas fugitives were hiding , tank fire and light weapons were deployed during the day and only in the afternoon when deemed secure did soldiers enter the building to search for the fugitives, engaged in a gun battle with them and killed them.
Elsewhere in the West Bank, three Hamas fugitives were arrested in Nablus and two in Abu Kash north of Ramallah. Palestinians fired shots at security forces deployed in Nablus and an explosive device was thrown at troops in Tulkarm.

In the Gaza Strip Palestinians fired four mortar shells at an Israeli community in the north Gaza Strip, two exploded inside the community but no one was wounded in the attack. Near the Karni crossing a Palestinian apparently armed with a bomb was killed by IDF forces who spotted him near the Karni crossing. Shots were fired at an IDF post near Gadid and at an IDF patrol near the north Gaza Strip fence, no one was wounded in either attack.

Posted by Frank G 2003-9-9 5:10:22 PM|| 2003-9-9 5:10:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Wow - what a followup... Busy day all around, for the IDF and the boomerdopes. Every bomber only hardens the resolve to wipe out the assholes. This is showing the signs of escalating to the point where Arafish may finally get fried. Long overdue - I hope the US has signaled Israel that we will stay out - even then.

Side note: "the building of 27 apartments that belongs to the Kawasmeh family"
This is not unusual in Arab countries. With a full standard quota of 4 wives, they can build quite a sizable clan. In '92 I lived across the street in Al Khobar (on the edge of Thoqbah) from a guy who owned a 6-story bldg - normally 20 apartments and a ground floor lobby / office / switchboard - it housed only his wives and children - I don't know how many of each there were. He had 2 huge Suburbans for hauling everyone around. I got to "know" some of the kids as they waited each morning for the schoolbus when I came out heading for work at Aramco. I wanted to smuggle the littlest girls out before they hit puberty - and became ninjas. The oldest girl was already beyond it - and wore the full black abaya and veil. Sad. I bought them soccer balls and such over the course of my 14+ months on that contract... and the young kids were cool and curious. The adults, on the other hand, were very wary of the infidel with the Yosemite Sam mustache. Prolly cursed it. What a trip.

Posted by .com (a.k.a. Abu This!) 2003-9-9 5:34:53 PM|| 2003-9-9 5:34:53 PM|| Front Page Top

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