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2003-09-15 Home Front

Navy may deploy Atlantic Fleet to avoid Isabel

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Posted by Dar 2003-09-15 1:31:53 PM|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It's always nice to witness the migration of the C-5's every September. Persian Gulf last year, Afghanistan the year before. If we HAVE to move them, could I suggest, oh, say, ...

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2003-9-15 1:58:02 PM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2003-9-15 1:58:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Nuclear ships are steam driven, but the older ships they are talking about are conventional. You don't want to be pierside Norfolk if hurricane comes through. It's great when a giant dumpster full of paint cans goes airborne and everybody is getting seasick tied to the pier.

Ufortuantely, if you try to cross the hurrican's path and it turns into you, that sucks as well. They normally keep the slower ships at the pier. There are also always a couple of ships that are partially disassembled for maintenance.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-9-15 2:56:13 PM|| 2003-9-15 2:56:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Speaking of Isabelâ¦

Posted by Katz 2003-9-15 3:42:34 PM|| 2003-9-15 3:42:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 When Hugo ripped through Charleston, SC in '89, at least one submarine on the Cooper River was in no state to get underway. My recollection is the USS Narwhal submerged at the pier. I don't know if they snorkeled or just ran on battery. The word on the river was she got muscled around the river by the storm surge.

Posted by jfd 2003-9-15 4:52:48 PM|| 2003-9-15 4:52:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Of course it's better to submerge deliberately at the pier than to sink at the pier.

Posted by jfd 2003-9-15 5:55:27 PM|| 2003-9-15 5:55:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 It was bad at the pier in Norfolk. Even if your lines parted you certainly weren't getting help from tugs. They were all chasing the barges with cranes on them that broke loose. It was chaos.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-9-15 8:15:30 PM|| 2003-9-15 8:15:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 ....During Gloria in 85, some good friends of mine were aboard Norfolk and Baltimore, and both of them simply submerged at pierside, though IIRC, the way the sub docks at Norfolk are positioned, they don't have to worry about getting hammered by the surge.
What will happen - probably by Tuesday night - is a full dress HURREVAC from Seymour Johnson and Langley AFBs. They'll head inland usually to a place like Wright Patterson AFB or SW to Eglin, both of which can absorb 70+ extra aircraft without too much strain. Shaw AFB - in central SC - still has its birds on the ground, which should give you an idea as to where the USAF thinks its going.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2003-9-16 1:06:01 AM|| 2003-9-16 1:06:01 AM|| Front Page Top

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