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2003-11-18 Middle East

Zogby Attacks US Role in Middle East, or Dog Bites Man.

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Posted by Anonon 2003-11-18 3:30:05 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Wonder if Zogy has domestic or imported cheese with all that wine?

Sounds like his solution is to"make nice"with those who would murder us in droves.

The only way to deal with bullies and thugs is to beat them down,if your friends refuse to help.They are not friends.

Posted by Raptor 2003-11-18 7:23:38 AM|| 2003-11-18 7:23:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "they hate us because they hate our freedom"

-I always thought this was a stupid statement as well. But for differing reasons then Zogby. This was a pc statement made by the admin because they didn't have the nutz to say the real reason for fear of pissing off the domestic RoPers. They really hate us because we're infidels, not Muslims, & not in alignment w/their views. They hate us because we're a secular western "Satan" that supports an Israeli state's existence. They also hate us because of their own ethnocentrisms (yes, not a solely American phenomenon) -they look down on our culture and believe they are morally superior, the true people of God. That's the reason.

"they attack us because we have been weak and indecisive"

-This is a true statement, & they will continue to f*ck w/us if we show weakness & indecision. Zogby falls into the "thinking like a compassionate westerner crap" - I've said numerous times before the one's we're dealing w/don't understand that cultural more of ours. Deal w/people on their level in their terms. If they grudgingly respect brute force, use it.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-18 8:49:16 AM|| 2003-11-18 8:49:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Remember that Zogby is NOT "impartial" or "non-partisan", and since he sold his polling company to one of his major competitors has been a constant apologist for the Arab states. The man has NO credibility left, and is rapidly shedding any dignity and claim to intelligence he may have made in the past. A "Zogby Poll" used to mean something positive, now it's seen as just another slanderous party upchuck for the dummycheats.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-11-18 8:53:52 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-11-18 8:53:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 er, IIRC the polling company is run by the brother (still? - I didn't know he sold it...) John Zogby. This is Jim Zogby, a noted apologist and, as noted above, a professional whiner about the misunderstood ROPma.

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-18 9:00:44 AM|| 2003-11-18 9:00:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Frank, Zogby sold out to Gallup about two years ago. They still "pretend" to be independent, but they're practically a department of CNN now. John and Jim aren't that far apart, politically, and whine in pitch.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-11-18 10:26:59 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-11-18 10:26:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 All that and what he really means is Israel must die. That's the political debate.

Posted by Lucky 2003-11-18 11:28:04 AM|| 2003-11-18 11:28:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 didn't know that - thanks OP

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-18 12:20:53 PM|| 2003-11-18 12:20:53 PM|| Front Page Top

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