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2004-04-28 Iraq-Jordan
Fox News: Death of 64 gunmen increases holiness of Najaf
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Posted by Super Hose 2004-04-28 3:58:35 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This God firsaken Kitty litter box is not sacred to me. Not in the least
Posted by an delusian dog 2004-04-28 4:15:44 AM||   2004-04-28 4:15:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 If this wasn't a bloody mosque we would have already leveled the building and Sadr. Damn world politics to hell!
Posted by Charles  2004-04-28 8:50:05 AM||   2004-04-28 8:50:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Let's make it the holiest spot in Islam!
Posted by Infidel Bob 2004-04-28 9:35:31 AM||   2004-04-28 9:35:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I have a problem with the geneva convention. We are being held to it, the enemy is not.

To me a deal is only valid when both sides adhere - I say turn the mosques inside out, and be thankful we arent your fellow moslems.
Posted by flash91 2004-04-28 1:00:27 PM||   2004-04-28 1:00:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 "I think most of it has to do with the fact that the citizens have been intimidated for years and years … that’s probably the reason that they’re [enemy fighters] not being expelled by their own people," Kimmitt said.

What I'm curious about is how much "intimidation" do Iraqis feel they have to take? At what point are they going to decide enough is enough and stand up to the thugs that are standing in the way between them and a possibly better future? If the majority of the population that doesn't support Sadr is unwilling to stand against him, the alternative is more of the same servitude towards whoever has the most armed militia members. I find it rather difficult to fathom that their breaking point hasn't as yet been achieved, unless their natural state is to be groveling at the feet of a strongman...
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-04-28 1:02:31 PM||   2004-04-28 1:02:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#6  Death of 64 gunmen increases holiness of Najaf . . . Under the Geneva Conventions, firing upon mosques or other holy sites is prohibited unless the structures are being used in battle.

The Marines just found employment for 4,608 vestial virgins in paradise. How is that against the Geneva convention?
Posted by BigEd 2004-04-28 1:18:25 PM||   2004-04-28 1:18:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 flash91

The beauty of the Geneva convention is that you don't have to respect it if the enemy doesn't follow it. You aren't supposed to fire on a hospital or on a religious building but the enemy isn't supposed to fire you from it/take cover in it/call artillery strikes from it. If he does not only you are allowed to fire on hospital and do what the enemy has done but you can shoot him for warcrime.

The Geneva conventions were made to make war a bit less cruel not to give an advantage to bad guys. This is its main strength: you gain nothing by not respecting it and you lose nothing by adhering to it: if the enemy doesn't play by the rules you are allowed to not respect them.
Posted by JFM  2004-04-28 1:42:04 PM||   2004-04-28 1:42:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 No matter what the enemy does, the press acts to hold you to the letter of the Geneva Convention. The Russians are not encumbered by the free press as we have seen in Grozny.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-04-28 2:00:34 PM||   2004-04-28 2:00:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Right, SH. The following thanks to CPT Patti via Instapundit:
"There are two ways, I suppose, one could inform readers of the Geneva Convention stipulation against using places of worship to conduct military attacks. One might be to headline saying that Terrorists Attack Coalition Forces From Mosques. That would be one way to present the information.

"Another might be to say: Mosques Targeted in Fallujah. That was the Los Angeles Times headline this morning." --Donald Rumsfeld at DOD Operational Briefing, 27 April 2004
As they say, Q.E.D.
Posted by Old Grouch  2004-04-28 2:19:55 PM||   2004-04-28 2:19:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Bless you, Rummy. Give 'em hell!
Posted by docob 2004-04-28 2:56:38 PM||   2004-04-28 2:56:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 biged

In Najaf that would be the Army, NOT the Marines.
Lets give credit where credit is due.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-04-28 3:07:51 PM||   2004-04-28 3:07:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Rumsfeld's comment should make the rounds of the conservative radio shows today (I hope). It is so absolutely correct and such a damming illustration of media bias that it can't be ignored.
Posted by remote man 2004-04-28 3:09:26 PM||   2004-04-28 3:09:26 PM|| Front Page Top

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