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2004-04-28 Iraq-Jordan

Tanks Sought to Protect Soldiers in Iraq

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Posted by Dragon Fly 2004-04-28 07:09|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 They'd run Bradleys and Abrams into the ground the way things are going. Why aren't they asking for Strykers? The situation seems to demand them, and I've only heard of a few losses in Strykers so far...

Posted by Mitch H. 2004-04-28 8:04:21 AM|| [http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2004-04-28 8:04:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 W ehave exactly one bridge sized unit trained on the Strykers and its in Iraq already.

The second one just completed its certification in Ft Lewis, and is comitted to the 2nd ID - thats Korea.

Follow on units are already scheduled, but the next one is stuck in Iraq - the 2nd Light Cavalry Regiment (AKA the 2nd Armored Cav - 2ACR, my old unit).

As for why they need armor, after all is said and done, nothing beats a tank if its supported by infantry. Combined Arms - been the name of the game since 1939.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-04-28 8:27:23 AM|| 2004-04-28 8:27:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Heard a report yesterday that one of the Generals in Iraq has asked for up-armored and revamped M-113(cold war era)apc's.Since there are"thosands already in the inventory they,M-ii3,are readly available and would help bridge the gap in Hummers and available Strykers.
Sounds like a good idea to me.

Posted by raptor 2004-04-28 8:58:14 AM|| 2004-04-28 8:58:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Read yesterday, though I don't have a link, that the Stryker had not proven substantially more protected than an armoured hummvee. Also heard that the unit in Iraq is in Kurdistan. They're probably getting good data on mileage.

The probelm is that "major operations" have recommenced but no one wants to say so or act like it.

Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-04-28 10:45:49 AM|| 2004-04-28 10:45:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe we can ask the IDF for a loan of some of those crazy looking made-over T-62 APCs.

Posted by Shipman 2004-04-28 11:39:46 AM|| 2004-04-28 11:39:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I heard similar report / discussion about Humvees - and the talking head attributed at least 200 US dead to using unarmored HV's instead of armored version or alternatives -- i.e. something that can survive the avg IED device.

I do not know enough about the Stryker's ability to withstand IED's - and as Mr Davis pointed out, they are being used in the safest area of Iraq - so unless they have serious bottom armor against IED's they are not the answer.

Bradleys are up to the task, but are helluvalot more expensive than HV's, but the report said (I admit this sounds high, but...) they are making 300 per month. I like the additional fact that it can fight back, when it's not a passive device, too. Whatever it takes, folks, whatever it takes.

Posted by .com 2004-04-28 3:54:51 PM|| 2004-04-28 3:54:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I'll bet that number is more like 30 a month dot.

Posted by Shipman 2004-04-28 4:08:38 PM|| 2004-04-28 4:08:38 PM|| Front Page Top

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