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2004-05-10 Home Front: Politix
Sharks Smell Rumsfeld’s Blood, Circle Closer and Closer
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-10 9:33:56 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

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Rumsfeld is the most powerful secretary of Defense ever


Bull. Henry Stimson during WWII had a hell of a lot more power, not only over our military, but also in making decisions in the civilian sphere.

Newsweak once more lets its ignorance of history blind them.

But he had to suspect that behind bars and out of sight the going would get rough, however careful he was about signing off on particular interrogation techniques.

Oh, yes, he HAD to suspect. I like how they phrase this -- an out-and-out denial that Rumsfeld ever approved anything illegal, but done in a way that tries to say he's still responsible.

The fact that at least 25 prisoners have died in U.S. custody since 9/11 was a pretty strong hint that something was going wrong.

Out of how many prisoners total?! It's hard to decide if there's "something going wrong" without context. If we had 100 prisoners and 25 died, yeah, I'd be worried. But if we had 10,000 and 25 died, I don't think it would even be worth noticing.

This whole "story" is nothing but propagandizing. Is this their editorial? Or do they really intend it to be an honest report?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-10 10:26:11 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-05-10 10:26:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Secretary of War Stanton almost had his president removed.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-05-10 10:33:15 PM||   2004-05-10 10:33:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Pardon my vernacular, but I think time will eventually show many of the pictures that have been released are in fact fakes or plants, created to turn the American public against the war.

I think time will show Newsweek et al to be the traitorous bitches we knew them all along to be.
Posted by badanov  2004-05-10 11:28:28 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org]  2004-05-10 11:28:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Rumsfeld has done nothing wrong. He's an honorable man, who's good at what he does. A civilian is SUPPOSED to be the head of the military, the Founders planned it that way. To hear generals complaining about him taking control is somewhat stupid on their part. HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN CONTROL!!

By God, when you have The National Guard, people from all walks of life, unschooled in the Geneva Convention, many who don't even know what the hell the Geneva Convention is, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE VIOLATIONS OF IT!!!!

So what if a few prisoners have turned up dead. Who cares? They took up arms against MY country. Better them than my family. And the key to this whole thing.....may be just a dogbite away.

Kill them sumbitches, and let's get this shit over with!
Posted by Halfass Pete 2004-05-10 11:49:25 PM||   2004-05-10 11:49:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 "The fact that at least 25 prisoners have died in U.S. custody since 9/11 was a pretty strong hint that something was going wrong"

yeah thats my take too how 25 is much or not? depends

Dont many will had been fired before capture? some of them could have been in a bad health condiion.

So that asshole of "journalist" is already saying that 25 were murdered. If i was from military already had put him in court.
Posted by Anonymous4602 2004-05-10 11:49:30 PM||   2004-05-10 11:49:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Pardon my vernacular, but I think time will eventually show many of the pictures that have been released are in fact fakes or plants, created to turn the American public against the war.

I doubt that. I see no reason to believe the pictures are fake; certainly the accused are acting guilty -- "I was only following orders!" -- and not claiming the evidence is fake.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-10 11:54:14 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-05-10 11:54:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Bob, there are photos in circulation that are so obviously faked that it taints the whole damn pool of photos in my estimation.

I have no doubt some abuses did occur, but many of the photos now on the internaet are simply faked or planted.
Posted by badanov  2004-05-11 12:12:15 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org]  2004-05-11 12:12:15 AM|| Front Page Top

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