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2004-06-30 Iraq-Jordan

Britain expected to hand over 'Chemical Ali'

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Posted by Steve White 2004-06-30 12:38:20 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 While the interim Iraqi government will take legal custody of Mr Hussein and 11 other high-profile prisoners...

Alrighty, .com. Now this article makes it look like they've got Al-Douri since he is one of the numbered "other eleven".

ah...nevermind...I'm so confused...

Posted by Quana 2004-06-30 12:54:44 AM|| 2004-06-30 12:54:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Quana - Well, if they have him, then we BOTH missed it! And I have not missed a day of blog reading in a year. I find TONS of stories of the $10M reward and an apparent close call back in December - but nothing about his actual capture.

Posted by .com 2004-06-30 1:04:56 AM|| 2004-06-30 1:04:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I don't know why the Brits are so worried about the death penality. Chem Ali is probably going to get panties on his head! Dirty panties! Oh, the humilation!

Posted by beer_me 2004-06-30 1:33:38 AM|| 2004-06-30 1:33:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 These losers bring new meaning to rope-a-dope.

Posted by Capt America 2004-06-30 2:31:59 AM|| [http://captamerica.blogspot.com/] 2004-06-30 2:31:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Quana, .com, I think they've charged Aizat Al Dori in abstentia. I guess they figure there's enough evidence to get the ball rolling. Plus, I figure most of the regular folk want to see him hang anyways, so a trial would let them re-hash all the evidence they have. Closure and all that.

Posted by beer_me 2004-06-30 2:46:56 AM|| 2004-06-30 2:46:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 "chemical" ali? since we all know that BUSH LIED and there were no chemical weapons, did he get this nickname when he toured as a bassist with foghat in the 70's?

Oh, thats right, cousin ali killed people en masse. Damn those uncomfortable facts, they do so get in the way of what we want to believe, dont they?

Posted by Frank Martin 2004-06-30 3:14:55 AM|| 2004-06-30 3:14:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Ali Hasan al-Majid GEN
Revolutionary Command Council (RCC) / Commander, Ba'ath Party Regional Command / Inner Circle/ Presidential Advisor/ Head Of Central Workers Bureau
In custody Aug 21

They caught him last year. There was a lot of confusion because he was declared dead several times, but he got better.

Posted by Steve 2004-06-30 9:37:03 AM|| 2004-06-30 9:37:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Steve...my confusion is over Ibrahim Al-Douri. There was some news he was captured about three days after Saddam, back in December. Then Centcom said "nope, we ain't got 'im" or something to that effect and he was back on the "not captured yet" list.

These articles (yesterday's here) refer to Al-Douri as if he is in custody but notably describe his date of capture as "date of detention unknown". I think that's a weird thing to say if they have him.

I think .com and beer_me may be right...this may be an "in absentia" kinda "dentention". If they don't have him, why don't they just say "In absentia". It's not as if it isn't a legal term or anything.

Posted by Quana 2004-06-30 10:17:36 AM|| 2004-06-30 10:17:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Indeed, Quana's right - the articles imply 12 physical bodies are being "turned over" - yet the evidence says Al Douri's still on the lamb.

In fact, about 10 days ago, it was reported that Al Douri had proclaimed Zarqawi his leader and proclaimed his loyalty, yadda3. Red's still at large.

Posted by .com 2004-06-30 10:23:06 AM|| 2004-06-30 10:23:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Steve-
he was declared dead several times, but he got better

only temporarily we hope!

Posted by Spot 2004-06-30 11:32:01 AM|| 2004-06-30 11:32:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 So the Brits are willing to hand this guy over to the Iraqis who are sure to hang him, but they won't extradite to the US "if there's a chance the death penalty might be imposed?" Somebody explain to me the double-standard?

Posted by Anonymous5479 2004-06-30 1:28:11 PM|| 2004-06-30 1:28:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 It's all very simple, 5479.

You see, the UK signed the Geneva convention, which requires them to return all POWs to their host country after hostilities end.

This is completely different from the situation with the US, where the UK signed an extradition treaty that requires them to hand over indicted criminals.

Um, actually, I guess it really isn't different.

Posted by Jackal 2004-06-30 3:52:17 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2004-06-30 3:52:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 This bugger is even more likely than Saddam to swing from a rope.

Good. And make sure Hussein sees it live and in living color.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-30 5:34:17 PM|| 2004-06-30 5:34:17 PM|| Front Page Top

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