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2004-11-18 Europe

Synagogue worker from U.K. shot in head in Antwerp

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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-18 7:25:38 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Was he wearing a yarmulke or some other external sign to indicate he is a Jew? I hope they start taking measures to protect themselves - like slinging an AK over the shoulder - and that this is not some Jooo-hatred murder. Down the road I hope it turns out I was a putz for the suggestion and that such measures were unnecessary and a great joke to be shared over coffee someday... But I fear it's otherwise.

Posted by .com 2004-11-18 7:43:34 AM|| 2004-11-18 7:43:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 My opinion is, sooner of later the majority of European Jews, due to the revolting expansion of anti-Semitism, will be forced to emigrate to Israel, especially with the adverse combination of the rising Islamic population in many E.U. states, plus neo-nazis gaining new thugs to their memberships. Those which say it can't happen again are living in a dream world, such as many after World War One, saying the Great War ended all wars.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-18 7:57:25 AM|| 2004-11-18 7:57:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm not holding my breath that it was some random drive by.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-11-18 7:58:03 AM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-11-18 7:58:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 not just european jews will emigrate. i'd bet that many non-jews, both christian and muslim (and post-christian, europe's largest confession) will leave during Europe's next civil war, the one that's already breaking out in holland. good for the US, bad for Europe. seen it a hundred times before.

Posted by lex 2004-11-18 8:20:49 AM|| 2004-11-18 8:20:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#5
In recent years many Jews have emigrated from the former Soviet Union to Germany.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:04:51 AM|| 2004-11-18 9:04:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#6
From Berlin-Judentum:
Out of almost one million Jews that have left the USSR and the successor states since 1945, a large group of around 170,000 people have immigrated to Germany starting in 1990, as a consequence of an admission regulation within the framework of the "Law of refugees in groups." It is estimated that there are another 100,000 wanting to arrive.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:08:40 AM|| 2004-11-18 9:08:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 dot com - the jewish community in Antwerp is largely ultra-Orthodox, especially Hasidim, who dominate large sectors of the diamond cutting trade. Anyone in that community would have been instantly recognizable as a Jew. And no, odds are they will NEVER carry guns. These are a fatalistic people, who trust all to G-d.

Re emigration. There is a considerable aliyah (migration to Israel) from the French Jewish community, which is Europes largest (and is a strongly Zionist community, esp among the Jews of North African origin) Its not flight for the exits, but its notably high for a Jewish community in a wealthy, western, democracy.

Community in Belgian is mainly Hasidic, as i said, and probably wont leave their lucrative businesses till theres blood on the streets on a regular basis.

German community isnt leaving and why should they? Germany doesnt have the emerging problems of France and Belgium.

UK community has only modest aliyah.

And thats pretty much it for the substantial communities in Europe.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-11-18 9:31:38 AM|| 2004-11-18 9:31:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Thanks for that informative breakdown Liberalhawk

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-18 10:03:45 AM|| 2004-11-18 10:03:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Jer. post confirms the victim was Chasid (and a father of five)

They also state that his wallet had NOT been taken, increasing the likelihood it was a hate crime.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-11-18 10:23:24 AM|| 2004-11-18 10:23:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm sure the AEL will be sending its heartfelt condolences.

Posted by Onionman 2004-11-18 12:14:08 PM|| 2004-11-18 12:14:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Liberalhawk,

In your post, when you said, "ultra-orthodox" did you mean "haradim"?

Posted by mhw 2004-11-18 1:53:56 PM|| 2004-11-18 1:53:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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