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2004-12-10 Iraq-Jordan
2/24 uses police work to break insurgency
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Posted by Chuck Simmins 2004-12-10 9:30:56 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This is what I have long called a major goal for the occupation of Iraq: the devolvement from a military campaign to a big episode of "Cops". At this particular point, the goal is now to achieve the "L.A. standard"; which means that, per capita, Iraq is about as violent as Los Angeles. The left, on the other hand, will continue to call Iraq a "quagmire" and "chaos" until it meets what could be called the "Canada standard", which is unrealistic.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-12-10 9:48:16 AM||   2004-12-10 9:48:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Anonymoose, I read someplace that Iraq passed the "Chicago standard" a long time ago.
Posted by Ptah  2004-12-10 10:43:30 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2004-12-10 10:43:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 this is what makes reserivsts and national guard in this sort of role, invaluble.

Unfortunately your higher command does not have the same law-enforcement experience when administering an occupation. That is one of our fatal flaws. Putting armored and cavalry division commanders in charge of a city like Baghdad and EVERYTHING that is required for securing a place filled with non-combatants AND bad guys.

Cops are used to that, it's pretty much their entire job. Military police have never really had to deal with that kind of environment in their daily duties, their beats and the type of public (joes) they deal with are vastly different.

The active duty division and brigade commanders have done more to impede the pacification of (lets say) Baghdad than anyone else... not to say there aren't good comamnders who get it, but there are a lot mroe who cannot break out of their modes of thinking and address the situation as it is.

a counter-insurgency and peace-keeping operation.

which has never been successfully combatted with traditional mechanized tactics and procedures.

Ask the Russians they'll tell you.

-DS
Posted by DeviantSaint  2004-12-10 10:46:58 AM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~deviantsaint]  2004-12-10 10:46:58 AM|| Front Page Top

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