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2005-04-17 Home Front: WoT
Mystery flight
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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-04-17 12:40:54 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I doubt if KLM's screening is good enough...Amsterdam Airport Schiphol certainly looks like a ticking timebomb...a couple of weeks ago the largest diamond robbery ever( 72 Mio Euro's)took place...2 people dressed in KLM clothing....Then Amsterdam airport employs quite an amount of islamic people all over the airport. Not that that should be a problem but when somebody with an osama style beard is checking your aircraft while you are already in it you start to feel funny. Maybe we must not be to negative and start to think those guys would be sleepers....
Posted by Dutchgeek 2005-04-17 9:02:09 AM||   2005-04-17 9:02:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I hope the Saudis, who do not have such niceties as "human rights" will get the truth from them. You do not have to torture someone to get the truth. Look how the Paleos start "singing" the moment they are in Israeli custody.

These 2 guys were ideal: They have legitimate reasond to travel to Mexico. Then, it's a no-brainer to commandeer a plane and hit us, or whatever their nefarious plans may be.
Posted by Glereper Craviter7929 2005-04-17 9:16:24 AM||   2005-04-17 9:16:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Not one attributed quote. Even the two key questions, "Did we overreact?" and "Can we afford not to?", are not from sources - they are generated by the reporters. Interesting.

The "product" this piece offers is a vague sort of fear, when it could have focused upon giving kudos to the people behind the process. What should have happened is precisely what did happen: they turned away a flight with dangerously suspicious people aboard who have the skills to use it in a 9/11-style attack.

The system seems to have worked. That the individuals in question didn't do anything this time is not the point - John Dillinger didn't rob every bank he ever saw - the point is, IMHO, that the situation was there and our people did their jobs admirably. These two Saudis are interconnected with proven bad guys in ways that should arouse suspicion - and our people didn't fail to see it or act upon it.

Kudos to the folks who do this, day in and day out, and only get noticed when someone in the MSM wants to cast doubts or raise fears. Imagine the story spin had they failed and these MSNBC reporters had found out... Ridicule, if nothing came of it, or vilification, if something did. Thanks, folks - you sure earn your pay.

Good read, Dan - Thx!
Posted by .com 2005-04-17 9:28:19 AM||   2005-04-17 9:28:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 U.S. officials fear that Latin America, and more particularly Mexico—with its porous U.S. border—may become a staging ground for Al Qaeda

Think Beslan, US-style: 10-12 jihadists slaughtering hundreds at a mall, say, with small arms or an aircraft. Child's play for AQ to infiltrate any of the thousands of illegals who cross the border each day. Mexican, Colombian, Honduran etc narco-terrorists will help; narco-politicians may help even more.

When will this country get serious about the threat to the south?
Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-04-17 9:49:14 AM||   2005-04-17 9:49:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 as .com noted, when dead Americans in adequate quantities happen. Then everyone will be a "I've always been for secure closed borders" guy. I say close em now - if we need workers, find a secure way to bring em in, otherwise, shoot anyone that crosses
Posted by Frank G  2005-04-17 11:57:39 AM||   2005-04-17 11:57:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 The KLM 685 incident—which was not widely publicized by the U.S. government

Odd. It "wasn't widely publicized" but I heard about it on the day it happened and heard follow-up details for the following few days.

And the choice of the word "publicized" is odd. Do "reporters" expect everything to be handed to them in a press release? Isn't it their job to go out and dig up information that isn't "publicized"?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2005-04-17 12:10:04 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-04-17 12:10:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 RC,

That would require work and plus if they were to "dig up" information, they may be forced to report un-biased news. That would be a tragedy.
Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-04-17 12:42:09 PM||   2005-04-17 12:42:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I think a Mexican coyote would rather turn-in than help Arabs enter the USA. Think about it. Take $25K from the Arab, then turn him over to the Feds! Talk about your two-fer!
Posted by Brett 2005-04-17 12:57:36 PM||   2005-04-17 12:57:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 So did the US overreact?

I presume that the freakazoid at Newsweak asked this lame question in order to premise this article.

I say we put the bullseye on this guy's behind and then ask him to answer his own question.

Posted by Captain America 2005-04-17 1:09:15 PM||   2005-04-17 1:09:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, but it pisses off the others willing to pay $25K, Bret.
Posted by too true 2005-04-17 1:11:18 PM||   2005-04-17 1:11:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 ...Canada rejected a request to land.

I wondered about this. The Canadians have not been exactly overzealous in the execution of anti-terrorism activities (from what I've heard). Were they just really impressed with the threat in this case, or did the US lean on them, or what?
Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-04-17 1:51:06 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2005-04-17 1:51:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 well, they weren't gonna get from Canada to Mexico without going a looooonnngg way around us
Posted by Frank G  2005-04-17 2:03:10 PM||   2005-04-17 2:03:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 well, they weren't gonna get from Canada to Mexico without going a looooonnngg way around us

Longer than the flight back to Amsterdam?

I was thinking more that the Canadians could've held the two Saudis for the next flight back to the Netherlands, and let the rest of the passengers continue to Mexico--on a different plane if necessary. That may have been legally/logistically impossible, of course.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-04-17 3:18:06 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2005-04-17 3:18:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Stop in Gander Newfoundland, then fly due south outside US airspace - maybe an extra 90 minutes flight time.
Posted by phil_b 2005-04-17 3:29:56 PM||   2005-04-17 3:29:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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