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2005-05-31 Arabia

Scholars Frustrate Extremists on Women Driving Issue

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Posted by Fred 2005-05-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So women never drove the oxen/camels?

Posted by anonymous2u 2005-05-31 02:48|| 2005-05-31 02:48|| Front Page Top

#2 the ruling on women driving is based on the sharia principle that the activity will have bad consequences, e.g., women leaving the home and not cooking for the men, women seeking independence, women rebelling against their fathers, etc.

these consequences are not universal; in some communities they would not occur

there was a ruling in about 1990 by the Saudi religious authority

this is the ruling that was being discussed

Posted by mhw 2005-05-31 08:21|| 2005-05-31 08:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Actually, it appears that the threshold is not that the activity will inevitably lead to bad consequences, but that the activity MIGHT lead to bad consequences. It does not matter if 99% of the time the consequences are good or benign. That possible 1% is what is used.

Further evidence of a theory I have, where I postulate that leftists and muslims share similar mind-sets, ways of thinking, and behaviors that are strangely self-destructive.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2005-05-31 09:27|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2005-05-31 09:27|| Front Page Top

#4
PTAH,

Theory indeed,

Your absolutist comments are representative of a fascist point of view, are you a fascist or just too lazy too look beyond your immediate stereotype comfort zones?

The world is not black and white my friend, but a cornicopia of gray.

Absolutism is far too akin to fascism for any good redblooded American to purport to subscribe to it, however, I am sure that the fuehrer would agree with your absolutist statements?

While I would agree with your first statements, why must you indict all Muslims, I know a few fundamentalist christians who don't allow their women to ct their hair. So must we indict all Christians? No, so step back and take a look at your statement again, while it may be semantical error on your part. It seems you need to evaluate your "theory" again.

MM

Posted by Mountain Man 2005-05-31 13:58|| 2005-05-31 13:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Hmmm... Y'ain't from around here, air yew?

Since I'm too lazy to repeat myself yet again on the subject of fascism, perhaps you could try reading more than one article and its comments out of an archive going back four years. Then you can read up on who Safar al-Hawali is, and maybe find out something about the other three clerics and ponder what an "absolutist" point of view actually is.

Posted by Fred 2005-05-31 14:27|| 2005-05-31 14:27|| Front Page Top

#6 a cornicopia of gray.

LOL! 9.483

Points for mixer mets.

Posted by Shipman 2005-05-31 14:41|| 2005-05-31 14:41|| Front Page Top

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