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2005-07-13 Home Front: WoT

Military Outlines Cases of Abuse at Gitmo

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Posted by tu3031 2005-07-13 13:18|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Bush administration officials have sought to portray the excesses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq as just that."

"That" being the excesses of a few rogue elements on a night shift. Which was proven to be exactly the case at Abu Ghraib, you fuckwit "journalists". You see, they held courts martial. It was in all the papers, honest. Just because comical, preposterous distortion and falsehood are now everday practices of "mainstream" media outlets and agencies doesn't mean we still shouldn't react to it.

And pathetic old Levin, desperate to find a pattern where the data didn't show one. What drives these nitwits?

Another gem, in two senses: "Previous investigations of prisoner abuse in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo have hurt U.S. standing worldwide."

What the idiot journalist meant to write was that allegations or "perceptions" of abuses have hurt US standing -- they can't even keep their own unfounded moronic "analysis" straight.

And that's just what it is -- unfounded ... unless someone can document that sort of sweeping statement for me. We DO know that false reports of abuses of Korans have hurt US standing, and that the blackout on the many many real positives in much of Iraq has hurt US standing, and that the adoption of an incomprehensible moral neutrality towards sickening and bizarre barbarism (beheading kidnap victims, blowing up groups of children) by US enemies while hyping every dubious negative from the battlefield have all hurt US standing.

But anyone with a clue about the real world knows that the inexplicable tales of US generosity and restraint in the treatment of its captives are, more than anything else, baffling to the bulk of Third World and Muslim observers, who are accustomed to medieval behavior by their own governments. But you'd have to have an IQ above 75 to stumble on that, I suppose.

Posted by Verlaine in Iraq 2005-07-13 13:56|| 2005-07-13 13:56|| Front Page Top

#2 forcing him to wear a bra, dance with another man and behave like a dog

No wonder Andrew Sullivan is obsessed with Gitmo

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-07-13 15:04|| 2005-07-13 15:04|| Front Page Top

#3 I suspect that in future operations all prisoners will be interrogated on the battlefield and taken into custody by the ally with whom we fight. There appears to be insufficient intelligence value to offset the cost of keeping prisoners and the LLL carping about their treatment. Turn Abu Ghraib over to the Iraqis and be done with it all.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-07-13 15:36|| 2005-07-13 15:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Mrs. Davis, I just finished a book by an interrogator in the Army reserves who worked at Kandahar and Bagram during the first year of the War in Afghanistan (called The Interrogators.) These people did some good work and are well trained. The techniques used on Mohamed al-Qahtani don't seem to me to be consistent with what is taught at Huachuca. The methods described also don't seem very likely to achieve any intelligence bonanza. Until I read this book I was unaware that there were professional interrogators in the army even to the extent of having a separate school to train them. I speculate that the thong on the head other acts aimed at belittling him or exploiting his homophobia weren't perpetrated by real interrogators. I would expect that the MP's ran amok yet again.
Fred or Old Spook could speak more authoritively on the subject.

Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-13 20:30|| 2005-07-13 20:30|| Front Page Top

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