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2005-09-03 Home Front: Economy
Doc: 6 Murders, 12 Rapes Inside Superdome
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Posted by anonymous5089 2005-09-03 09:02|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Outsiders vs Insiders. Not surprising. I seem to recall the hatred directed to Vietnamese boat people who where relocated to NO in the 70s. The locals were complaining that the new arrivals were getting benifits that belonged to them.

NO has been a classical welfare state where someone else is suppose to be responsible for the basics of existance. Not much above the Paleos reliance upon the UN buearucrats for their existance for 67 years.
Posted by Spaviting Elmoting4926 2005-09-03 10:33||   2005-09-03 10:33|| Front Page Top

#2 "6 Murders, 12 Rapes"

0 witnesses.
Posted by .com 2005-09-03 10:41||   2005-09-03 10:41|| Front Page Top

#3 My Gawd, the killed the witnesses too?
Posted by Captain America 2005-09-03 11:58||   2005-09-03 11:58|| Front Page Top

#4 .com, and Captain America: I'd be very suprised if the numbers were that low.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-09-03 12:55||   2005-09-03 12:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Delta Force or SEALS should have been sent in there as soon as the first reports appeared of rescue teams being fired at. Since time was of the essence it would have made sense to put the best people in there, rather than NG or local police.
Posted by plook 2005-09-03 14:31||   2005-09-03 14:31|| Front Page Top

#6 Or failing Delta Force or the 7th Calvary pehaps some honest cops.
Posted by Mona Gorilla 2005-09-03 16:04||   2005-09-03 16:04|| Front Page Top

#7 It was probably the cops shooting at the rescue teams, for interrupting their lil looting spree.
Posted by Oswald J Flugelmeyer 2005-09-03 17:12||   2005-09-03 17:12|| Front Page Top

#8 The
Posse Comitatus Act of 1878


Time for the adults to take over came, the adults showed up. Order was restored. The city, Parish and State government have been abject failures in the New Orleans area. Now the Democrats and left who run the show down there and screwed it up so badly blame Bush and the Federal Government. I want to see some Federal Grand Jury indictments handed down to the Mayor of New Orleans and the Head of the Office of Emergency services in New Orleans.
Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2005-09-03 17:25||   2005-09-03 17:25|| Front Page Top

#9 Let me first preface this comment by saying that I hope you don't think I'm a terrible person for harboring these feelings.

It seems that the folks that stayed behind for whatever reason mostly seem to be a mixture of thugs and those not having resources. What we're seeing now is the ignorance that has been breeding here over many years. These folks seem to rely on the government to help out in every way. Most of all the disaster plans encourage folks to have a family plan intact, to be ready themselves and knowledgeable in how to access information. The local government failed miserably as well, going off the deep end. It is sad that precious hours and days were wasted because of this. I know this sounds horrible, as I like to think I am compassionate in alot of ways. I guess what I mean to say is I would like to help folks already making some attempt here. For it to be expected that everything be done is crazy especially in such an all out emergency. I'm not refering to the elderly or sick, I'm mostly refering to the able bodied. To not see these guys help each other out is frustrating to say the least. I feel like we are failing the folks that were just too ignorant to leave or that decided to stay for other strange reasons (that escape me)and are stuck with these thugs. So much for emergency preparedness. Meanwhile I hope folks survive this tragic situation.
Posted by Jan 2005-09-03 18:04||   2005-09-03 18:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Jan - I agree
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-09-03 18:37||   2005-09-03 18:37|| Front Page Top

#11 guess we're both bad people?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-09-03 18:38||   2005-09-03 18:38|| Front Page Top

#12 Hey, Jan and Frank G... I'm a bad person, too.
(And I hope to see Hizzonor the Mayor raked over the coals for the failure to use the school and city busses to get people out, either before the hurricane, or when the levee began to fail. That aerial picture of the bus yard is damning.)
Posted by Sgt. Mom">Sgt. Mom  2005-09-03 20:08|| www.sgtstryker.com]">[www.sgtstryker.com]  2005-09-03 20:08|| Front Page Top

#13 MeBad2

The hurricane brought to the surface a complete absence of leadership at the state and local levels.

The MS governor immediately issued a "shoot to kill" against looters. The outcome, no looting problem.

The N.O. mayor told the N.O. police chief not to take punitive action against looters. The outcome, adject lawlessness, deaths, rapes, etc.

The LA governor throws up her hands and issues a "Desperate SOS" the most serious problem is between her ears and lack of a leaders' heart.

The N.O. police chief throws a temper tandrum on cable television. No wonder 2/3s of the police officers bolted at the sight of a flood. Less than 5 perc of them live in N.O.
Posted by Captain America 2005-09-03 21:08||   2005-09-03 21:08|| Front Page Top

#14 Delta Force, etc. could not be employed because the LA governor didn't declare Marshall Law and did not federalize the troops.
Posted by Captain America 2005-09-03 21:10||   2005-09-03 21:10|| Front Page Top

#15 I guess I'm bad too because I've been saying they should get rid of that 'useless as a turd in a rainstorm' mayor and issued shoot-to-kill orders against looters and the lawless.

Does anyone thing the MSM will allow any of those responsible (the Mayor, Governor) to be help accountable? Didn't think so.
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-09-03 21:30||   2005-09-03 21:30|| Front Page Top

#16 CP,
Marshall Law is forbidden in the Louisana Const.

Jan,
I guess I am a terrible person also. I hope the generosity around the US in taking in the refugees is done with caution. In the sense that criminal backgrounds are checked, immunizations, etc. I am not talking about extra precautions just for the refugees. I am talking about the same standards should be in place as if they were a citizen of the community taking them in. E.g. if strict background checks and drug testing are required for a regular employee then it should carried through to the refugee also.

Also, I think the state legislatures should take this tragedy as an opportunity to pass a bill that retroactively eliminates free schooling and medical benefits for illegal aliens. It's time that America takes care of its own that are in this dire situation. Although I appreciate the help from other countries, it's still outright embarassing to me that Third World countries has to give donations. I'd rather pay $4 a gallon than accept any help from Chavez.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-09-03 21:35||   2005-09-03 21:35|| Front Page Top

#17 I guess we'll all be bad together, safety in numbers heh. (Maybe discuss it over some homebrew)
Poison Reverse, I agree with you. The damage and destruction that has taken place in the superdome along with the rapes and murders are disgusting to hear about. I'm sure the numbers are much higher than what's being reported too. Looking at the caliber of folks that stayed, and that they are the ones being transported, yes there should be some type of screening in place. I don't like the idea of "big brother" scanning everyone, but in these times I think it's come to a point for the safety of all that yes we do drug testing and background checks. Actually, not to stray too far off the subject here, I've felt all along that for folks that receive welfare checks that they get drug tested to get the benefits. To assure that they aren't using the money for drugs.
Makes you wonder how the dynamics of Houston will change with it's new inhabitants, as I don't feel they will have the money to move back to NO.
As far as stopping the illegal aliens from getting free school and medical benefits, hell yeah, but don't get me started. ;)
Posted by Jan 2005-09-03 22:19||   2005-09-03 22:19|| Front Page Top

#18 Marshall Law is forbidden in the Louisana Const.

Proof? Inability to federal troops. Proof?
Posted by Captain America 2005-09-03 22:35||   2005-09-03 22:35|| Front Page Top

#19 Okay, I found that Marial Law is not recognized in LA. A state of emergency has been declared (on Tuesday). Sounds like action was taken under Homeland Security circa 1993.

My understanding is that Pres. Bush requested that the governor take such action last Sundy, under the impending hurricane threat, including the federalization of troops.
Posted by Captain America 2005-09-03 22:53||   2005-09-03 22:53|| Front Page Top

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