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2005-09-05 Europe

Schroeder loses debate against Merkel, set to be stomped

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-09-05 01:08|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Oh good, I hope to see the stomping live on cable?

Posted by Captain America 2005-09-05 01:56|| 2005-09-05 01:56|| Front Page Top

#2 Article: Looking relaxed in a black suit with white buttons, Mrs Merkel said that she and an increasing number of voters believed in a Europe with clear boundaries. This didn't include Turkey, she said.

This will win it for her. Every time Schroder mentions Turkey, he's got be losing points. If you throw Turkey's 80m people into the mix, Muslims will become 20% - 25% of the EU's population.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-09-05 02:03|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-09-05 02:03|| Front Page Top

#3 And another Iraq war opponent goes down at the next election. The MSM of course won't touch this trend with a tenfoot bargepole.

Posted by phil_b 2005-09-05 04:41|| 2005-09-05 04:41|| Front Page Top

#4 I don't know if I agree with phil_b.

Anti Americanism has kept Mr SchrÃ¶der in power for a couple of years.

Posted by bernardz 2005-09-05 06:55|| 2005-09-05 06:55|| Front Page Top

#5 she said that if voters were happy with Mr SchrÃ¶der's record on jobs, growth and pensions over the past seven years they should vote for him.

That sounds a lot like Reagan's closing in 1980. Of course, Merkel is no Reagan. I'm still very concerned that she is proposing raising marginal tax rates.

I have to agree with berdardz. Schroeder appeared to be behind in 2002 until he played the anti-American card. Unfortunately, there are still lots of "Good Germans" who listen to their betters.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-09-05 09:19|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-09-05 09:19|| Front Page Top

#6 More to the point, there are lots of Germans who are knee-jerk anti-American.

Posted by Omerens Omaigum2983 2005-09-05 15:12|| 2005-09-05 15:12|| Front Page Top

#7 SchrÃ¶der didn't lose this debate. Almost all German media give him the edge, which was to be expected.

Merkel didn't lose it, that's the important point. She missed some excellent opportunities to nail SchrÃ¶der against the wall.

But she'll win anyway

Posted by True German Ally 2005-09-05 16:46|| 2005-09-05 16:46|| Front Page Top

#8 TGA, How could the Guardian, of all papers, have gotten this wrong?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-09-05 17:11|| 2005-09-05 17:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Angie, doll, I'll have another brew please.

Posted by Captain America 2005-09-05 19:21|| 2005-09-05 19:21|| Front Page Top

#10 Mrs Davis, no clue. I read this before and could only shake my head.

SchrÃ¶der is the media guy so everybody expected him to pull this off. He performed worse than expected but all polls gave him a (small) lead.

Maybe he got his party another percent of the votes, but the gap is 10 percent.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-09-05 19:32|| 2005-09-05 19:32|| Front Page Top

#11 TGA, sad to see a proud and noble country go straight to their knees and slavery in the last 30+ years. I kinda see this as a "damn if you do or don't" type of scenerio.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-09-05 20:19|| 2005-09-05 20:19|| Front Page Top

#12 Schroder did it again - he brought up Uncle Sam in the debate. From the guys at Power Line:

Yesterday, in a televised debate with Merkel, Schroeder took things to a new level by attacking the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, about which, I suspect, he knows little (Merkel declined to discuss the matter). He contrasted the response to his government's actions to far less devastating floods in 2002.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-09-05 21:57|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-09-05 21:57|| Front Page Top

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