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2005-10-30 Iraq

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-10-30 01:35|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 that picture is so amusing. On the subject of car booms have they not learnt they don't get you anywhere. Randomly exploding cars do not win wars. Infact i want to do an analysis on just what the effect of so many car bombs are on our forces, to mee it dosn't seem like much at all in casualtys and only bad part is spending time trying to shut these fairly complex car bomb operations down. How many soldiers have been killed with car bombs - 1000 or less i'm guessing.now imagine in WW2 that car bombs were used (i know its a stretch of the imagination) and only caused 1000 allied deaths i'd imagine it wouldn't really bother anyone much. What im trying to say is that dispite the media footage of bloodied Iraqi civilians maimed by car bombs presenting an image of horrer and hopelessness in Iraq i do not think they are the 'wonder weapon' the media thinks they are. I mean imagine we went to war against a country and carried out 1 or possibly 2 airstrikes a day against the eneamy - not ww2 style airstrikes but i mean just one or two 500lb'ers being randomly dropped on the eneamy by just one plane a day, the effect of that would be utterly useless and pointless. Imagine operation desert storm with just one plane a day attacking the Iraqi army - the Iraqi army woulda been laughing all the way into Kuwait and not leaving in any kinda hurry either. Or 1 tank firing 1 round a day, i think you all see what im getting at. VBIED's are more of a planning problem if you ask me and no threat to Iraqi stability unless you can get at least 100 carbombs to detonate against US military targets killing 50 or more a day and knocking out there bases and airfields but it aint gonna happen. Now a chemical attack via carbomb - or any bomb for that matter would be a true force multipliyer. Until that happens they cannot win in my view.

Posted by Shep UK 2005-10-30 12:00|| 2005-10-30 12:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Shep,
Car bombs are a small cause of US and coalition deaths. IEDs, followed by small arms fire are the leading cause of deaths.
Belmont Club: August 2005 deaths for US forces
The list for August shows the cause of 74 deaths sustained by US forces in Iraq (as of today) distributed as follows:
Cause Number
IED 33
VBIED (car bomb) 7 (9.5%)
IED and Small Arms combined 6
Small Arms 16
Other explosion 2
Rocket 1
Non combat related 9

Posted by ed 2005-10-30 12:31|| 2005-10-30 12:31|| Front Page Top

#3 You're gettng there Shep. Gotta dial in the deadly Modern Media tho.

Posted by Shipman 2005-10-30 17:53|| 2005-10-30 17:53|| Front Page Top

#4 dispite the media footage of bloodied Iraqi civilians maimed by car bombs presenting an image of horrer and hopelessness in Iraq i do not think they are the 'wonder weapon' the media thinks they are.

But the media is the wonder weapon the terrorists know it is. They are counting on it to ally with domestic apathy and impatience to deliver them victory as in Vietnam. The big difference is that we were facing a foe willing to fight tenaciously with support from a major superpower and we decided to tie one hand behind our back. I see more parallels in Syria with the later point than I would like, but in general it seems the military is fighting the way it wants to against a bunch of gutless thugs and punks willing to take advantage of true believers and other mental incompetents.

Effective attacks are not necessary for the media to do its job on behalf of their terrorist allies. All they need is blood and chaos that they link to the presence of Americans. It doesn't really matter whose blood, Americans is best, civilians will do nicely also and Iraqi forces when they can thereby be shown to be incompetent. The message is your tax dollars created this hell. Get out now.

Unfortunately, kept up long enough and repeated often enough, the Big Lie becomes the truth. There is no doubt in my mind that the media god Murrow would be disgusted by how much his successors have come to resemble Goebbles.

Posted by Phavimp Glart4956 2005-10-30 19:26|| 2005-10-30 19:26|| Front Page Top

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