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2005-12-15 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

More on Ahmadinejad channeling his inner Adolf Hitler

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-12-15 02:04|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Many of my wife's family died in the death camps during WWII. Maybe dipwad Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could explain to them that it was a myth. Let him tell them it was all a myth. Friggin islamofascist nazi idiot boy.

Posted by Sliting Joluque4677 2005-12-15 12:40|| 2005-12-15 12:40|| Front Page Top

#2 "It's really shocking that a head of state who has a seat in the United Nations can say such a thing," said Jose Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission, the executive body of the European Union. He said the speech "calls our attention to the real danger of that regime having an atomic bomb."

I'm afraid the implication is that had he just kept his mouth shut, there wouldn't be a problem.

I gotta hand it to AhMADinejad, though: it takes some serious looniness to get the EUros to issue such unequivocal statements against you.

Posted by Xbalanke 2005-12-15 12:44|| 2005-12-15 12:44|| Front Page Top

#3 I can't decide if Barroso's statement says more about Ahmadinejad or the UN.

Posted by Ebbeting Clolump9276 2005-12-15 13:22|| 2005-12-15 13:22|| Front Page Top

#4 "the remarks of the Iranian president are causing even more outrage" than Ahmadinejad's statement last month that Israel should be "wiped off the map."

Because what do the prospects of actual, live Jews matter when history is insulted? At least they are stirred by the recent statement, but it demonstrates their refusal to learn from their own history that a "wipe Israel off the map" statement elicited only a few mildly indignant comments.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-12-15 14:21|| 2005-12-15 14:21|| Front Page Top

#5 The real issue here should be that when Ahmadi Nejad says, "There was no holocaust", huge number of people agree with him in the Islamic world; probably at least 30% and, in some countries, e.g. SArabia, it is probably closer to 70%.

Oddly, among the people that believe the holocaust didn't happen, a large number also believe that Hitler was a hero for murdering millions ofJews.

I wonder if genocidal hatred is typically accompanied by a failure to see the logical contradiction.

Posted by mhw 2005-12-15 16:33|| 2005-12-15 16:33|| Front Page Top

#6 He said the speech "calls our attention to the real danger of that regime having an atomic bomb."

And Ahmadinejad's previous demand that "Israel be wiped off of the map" wasn't a gigantic bright red warning flag all by itself?

And now for the real gem:

"Our officials should realize that there are many facts in the world that we should not pass our judgments on in a way that the world finds fault with."

That sounds an awful lot like he's summoning up the concept of Al-Takeyya*. He does not seem afraid of passing incorrect judgements so much as publically pronouncing them in such a way that others take notice of them. In other words, pass judgement, but not so openly that those on the receiving end come to understand that they have been placed in the crosshairs of Islamic wrath. How doth Muslim Arabs love perfidy? Let me count the ways.

Most remarkable of all is not Ahmadinejad's bilious spewing, but that Europe and so many other "moderate" Islamic leaders ~~refuse to~~ do not recognize the immense peril they are placed in.

Israel's approximately 200 nuclear warheads are enough to transform every single major Muslim population center from Egypt to Tehran into smoking, glow-in-the-dark glass. However rhetorical it might seem, if there are any sane Islamic leaders in the Middle East, they will need to consider intervening with Iran, if only to preserve their own lives. Should Iran let loose a single nuclear missile, untold millions could die as a result.

Iran's belligerent spouting is symptomatic of the entire Arab Middle East's malaise. Blind hatred of Israel will bring them all to the brink of annihilation yet.

* The principle of Al-Takeyya

The Arabic word, "Takeyya", means "to prevent," or guard against. The principle of Al Takeyya conveys the understanding that Muslims are permitted to lie as a preventive measure against anticipated harm to one's self or fellow Muslims. This principle gives Muslims the liberty to lie under circumstances that they perceive as life threatening. They can even deny the faith, if they do not mean it in their hearts. Al-Takeyya is based on the following Quranic verse:

"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution (prevention), that ye may Guard yourselves from them (prevent them from harming you.) But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah." Surah 3: 28

According to this verse a Muslim can pretend to befriend infidels (in violation of the teachings of Islam) and display adherence with their unbelief to prevent them from harming him.

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lyingprint.htm

Posted by Zenster 2005-12-15 17:38|| 2005-12-15 17:38|| Front Page Top

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