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2006-02-18 Home Front: WoT
US losing propaganda war to al-Qaeda
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-02-18 01:15|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Look to your own house Rummy. You're generals only want to fight the battle on the line and ignore the second front at home. You have a CSA who listens to the MI people and virtually shuts down their bloggers who are the only consistance source of positive news from the front. Yeah, yeah, I know op security. Those weasels don't understand the trade off between support at home and some casualties in the field. If you are unwilling to take casualties, don't fight! And there is no reason to fight if you win the battle but lose the war at home. Didn't you learn that from Vietnam? Fear and paranoia are the leverage of the MI people. They just about got closed down after GWI because they couldn't, wouldn't support tactical commanders. Now they're justifying their jobs by inducing fear and loathing in our own ranks. Now you notice a propaganda war is in effect. Time to start at home. If you can't do it at home, how in the hell do you expect to win it in a foreign environment?
Posted by Thrineper Spigum8159 2006-02-18 08:04||   2006-02-18 08:04|| Front Page Top

#2 That's because USA fallows the precepts of DWEMs instead of native Peoples traditions. IMHO, in the fight for Muslims "hearts & minds" we must combine (i) Native American traditions (Aztecs) and (ii) Egyptian tradition (from the embalming procedures).
Posted by gromgoru 2006-02-18 10:13||   2006-02-18 10:13|| Front Page Top

#3 You have a CSA who listens to the MI people and virtually shuts down their bloggers who are the only consistance source of positive news from the front

I wouldn't lay this at Schoomaker's feet. We're damned lucky he came out of retirement. Don't forget his special forces background or the fact that he retired when his unit's work with Able Danger was shut down.
Posted by lotp 2006-02-18 10:21||   2006-02-18 10:21|| Front Page Top

#4 Just to add to that, I think that if the American public wanted to they (we) could force the MSM to cover Iraq etc. more even-handedly.

This is not a flame, but a call to action. How many people who post here are writing or calling the press and the TV news stations regularly on this issue? Or have invited a vet to speak at their church / civic group / school to give firsthand info?

This war is way too important for us to leave it up to the military or to a handful of leaders alone. And while milblogs help to get out detailed stories and keep our morale up, there's a lot more that really needs to be done IMO.

Michelle Malkin is covering a New Black Panther protest at the Danish Embassy in DC today. Go read who the leaders are and what they have said in the past, and if you're in the area consider getting together with Protest Warriors or some similar group. If we don't all start speaking up we may lose the ability to do so - or to influence what becomes of our country and our society.
Posted by lotp 2006-02-18 10:27||   2006-02-18 10:27|| Front Page Top

#5 In a war it always seems like you're losing, the enemy seems to be advancing everywhere, until one day you wake up and realize you've won, and the enemy was never really as strong as you thought he was. Any impression that we are losing any aspect of this war is only due to the fact that we are exercising only about 1% of our power against this enemy.
Posted by HV 2006-02-18 14:29||   2006-02-18 14:29|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree with you - except (and it's a big exception) that we are badly losing the public opinion / perception war. And while we can tough that out for a while, do you really want it to get to the point where the UN (and all its members except us and perhaps Israel) declares an economic boycott of US goods and international arrest warrants for US officials?

Because that's what some are pushing for. And while they seem like loonies, the UN statement on Guantanamo is an example of an issue that Merkel and Blair are getting behind. At some point soon we all have got to openly declare support for the WOT or we will lose in the worst way - the way we lost Vietnam.
Posted by lotp 2006-02-18 14:58||   2006-02-18 14:58|| Front Page Top

#7 He lamented that vast media attention about U.S. abuses at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq outweighed that given to the discovery of "Saddam Hussein's mass graves."

He expected the same press that covered up Saddam's crimes during the '90s to suddenly reveal them now?

C'mon, Rummy, you're smarter than that. Get with the DOJ and find a way to charge some CNN executives with aiding and abetting crimes against humanity.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-02-18 15:14|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-02-18 15:14|| Front Page Top

#8 Robin - the Union Tribune doesn't even bother to verify who I am - they know my email addy and letters to the editor rants :-)

Little less successful with the local news, which follow the national news memes, since that's where they get their goods (and promotions and....)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-02-18 16:17||   2006-02-18 16:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Hooah, Frank. ;-)
Posted by lotp 2006-02-18 16:22||   2006-02-18 16:22|| Front Page Top

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