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2006-02-22 Home Front: WoT
Yet more on the Ohio arrests
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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-02-22 01:37|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 These were American citizens or legal residents, and therefor cannot be wiretapped without warrant. NSA eavesdropping program will be on trial here at least as much as the three Muslims. I hope they had FISA warrants, with all the t's crossed and i's dotted. It's a tricky thing to balance protection of freedom with loss of freedom to the protectors.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2006-02-22 07:55||   2006-02-22 07:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Actually, I'm hoping the judge throws the cases out of court. Maybe having gotten some real, live jihadis released by their foolishness will convince some of our kneejerk libertarian buddies that their positions hold real-world consequences.

Of course, I wouldn't bet on it.
Posted by DaveP. 2006-02-22 10:34||   2006-02-22 10:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Did they do any "overt acts", that's the question. Computer searches won't put a traitor's noose around their necks.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-02-22 12:24||   2006-02-22 12:24|| Front Page Top

#4 FISA and the NSA Surveillance Progs, includ any evidence gathered from same, may be a non-issue - as long as the Feds have written evidences/
testimonies from "the Trainer" as informant, and supporting collaborative evidences which can independently verified, FISA and NSA Wiretapping may not be needed. As American citizens or legal residents, they have already been found guilty by grand jury for conspiracies to kill US soldiers and citizens abroad - depending on severity, and formal indictment, their citizenship or legal residency may/can be unilater revoked upon formal request by the Feds and Court approval of same. IFF THE THREE ARE LUCKY, THEY'LL GET SENT TO GITMO AND GLAZE-GATE, INSTEAD OF FORT LEAVENWORTH, MAKING LITTLE ROCKS FROM BIG ROCKS 24-7!?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-02-22 21:30||   2006-02-22 21:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Joe---that little rocks from big rocks thingie at Leavenworth is known in the trade as Rock Hockey.
Posted by Al-Aska Paul">Al-Aska Paul  2006-02-22 21:39||   2006-02-22 21:39|| Front Page Top

#6 they have testimony and tapes (assumed legally obtained via grand jury or better) by "The Trainer". Smoke em and let the gallows sing
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-02-22 21:43||   2006-02-22 21:43|| Front Page Top

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