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2006-09-24 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2006-09-24 10:10|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 They gave the solution right there. The American public. Under the right circumstances, a random cross-section of Americans have several who are damn dangerous.

How many ultra-violent movies has the typical American seen? They have learned from those movies how to go positively ape-sh*t when they need to.

In a typical airplane packed with Americans, I doubt some screaming psycho could make more than 10 ailes before being tackled. And from that point, he would be lucky to wake up in a hospital.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-09-24 13:40|| 2006-09-24 13:40|| Front Page Top

#2 there are many passengers on each flight who are willing to risk all to take down hijackers.

I fly a fair amount, I have thought issue about this often, and had numerous conversations with fellow (white male businessman) passengers. Below are my thoughts on the subject. I believe my peers pretty much agree with me.

Flight 93 showed the proper path in such a situation. Once you know your life is forfeit, you only have a choice as to how and why you die. Those brave heroes decided that no matter what, they weren't going to their deaths meekly. They would fight to victory, or death. They stopped a much more hellish scene by giving their lives to save the lives of others and the honor of our nation and it's people.

What do I do? I always, always check out the other passengers, following my own threat profile (young. arab. male, behavior, etc.) and looking for any passengers which fit the profile. If I see one that matches my profile, I observe him very closely, looking for any 'reasons for alarm'. Even if I don't spot any reasons, I keep track of where they are during the flight. I always, always get an aisle seat so I have more 'freedon of action'. I have resolved that no commercial airliner I am on will only be used as a "weapon of mass destruction", unless I am dead.

THAT is my policy.

Posted by Brett 2006-09-24 13:54|| 2006-09-24 13:54|| Front Page Top

#3 Brett's correct. Further, the TSA and everything spent on airport security is wasted, especially if they aren't going to profile ticket purchasers. Ask yourself, is this hassle necessary? Usually not. That's why I haven't flown in 3 years.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-24 14:04|| 2006-09-24 14:04|| Front Page Top

#4 Remember, folks .... the TSA as govt bureaucracy was foisted on us by Congress.

The resulting idiocy is not entirely inevitable, but to a good degree does flow from that.

Posted by lotp 2006-09-24 14:10|| 2006-09-24 14:10|| Front Page Top

#5 It was foisted on us by the Democrats who wanted a big new jobs program and forced the President to create it and the DHS by repeatedly saying he was doing nothing to protect us. Then they got PO's when he wouldn't let these fine law enforcement personnel unionize so they could strike and shut down all the airlines at once like PATCO.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-09-24 14:18|| 2006-09-24 14:18|| Front Page Top

#6 Air marshals only fly a small (classified) number of flight, Well, the number of flights with air marshalls may have been a secret before old blabber mouth wrote this report. Let's see now,form the artical,there are a total 2100 air marshalls, but only 1050 are available on any given day. They each average 20 flights a week (20 X 1050) 21,000 flights. Assume air marshalls work seven days a week and also that there are two marshalls on each flight-- that's 1500 flights each day with air marshalls on board. Some secret.

Posted by GK 2006-09-24 14:56|| 2006-09-24 14:56|| Front Page Top

#7 Assume air marshalls work seven days a week and also that there are two marshalls on each flight-- that's 1500 flights each day with air marshalls on board. Some secret.

The good news is that there is an unknown, but likely large number of Bretts.

Posted by 6 2006-09-24 17:57|| 2006-09-24 17:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Flying was miserably unpleasant before 9-11; now it's sheer hell. Any would-be hijacker is truly committing suicide now. Trying to take over a plane full of cramped, crowded people gritting their teeth to get through three hours crammed in a space smaller than a coffin is quite simply asking to be ripped apart by a thoroughly enraged mob.

Hell, maybe that's part of the DHS plan--make every legitimate passenger so damned mad that any he/she would beat the snot out of ANYONE they got a legitimate shot at on the flight. I guarantee you it's been working for me because every time I fly I get so pissed off with the security procedures that by the time I get to my seat, if I had the nuclear football there wouldn't be anything left in the Muslim world but radioactive glass.

Posted by mac 2006-09-24 18:50|| 2006-09-24 18:50|| Front Page Top

#9 There are somewhere between 2M and 5M retired military, and many of us fly at least now and then. Give us a nice, impossible to duplicate photo-id, and let us fly with a "weapon of choice" (but not a hand-gun). I'm gray-haired (what little hair I have left), and walk with a limp. Let me take my walking cane onboard. I dare anyone to try to get by me with that. How many other people would there be who would volunteer to fly as "auxilliaries" to the Air Marshalls, known or unknown? It easily solves the airline-hijacking problem without expanding the federal government or creating other nasty problems. And a few of us would be able to rightly say we're helping the war against islamic terrorism, even though we're "too old" to fight on the front lines. Other suggestions?

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-09-24 18:57|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-09-24 18:57|| Front Page Top

#10 Weapon of choice? Hell, I would smother that MF with a pillow. I would strangle with my bare hands anyone trying to commendeer that plane. Trust me, 9-11 can never happen again now that people know.

TSA nothing. PEOPLE make a place great, NOT a government.

Posted by newc">newc 2006-09-24 19:55|| 2006-09-24 19:55|| Front Page Top

#11 I would smother that MF with a pillow

WTF? You have teeth. He has a neck. Go to it!

Posted by Frank G 2006-09-24 20:06|| 2006-09-24 20:06|| Front Page Top

#12 Just issue me an extra full can of soda instead of pouring it into a cup. I've got a sock. Also if sandpaper is not on the "no-no" list I could buy the $5box lunch and hone my spork into a shiv.

Posted by Super Hose 2006-09-24 20:19|| 2006-09-24 20:19|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks for everything, Democrat Leon Mineta!

Posted by Phineter Thraviger1073 2006-09-24 20:34|| 2006-09-24 20:34|| Front Page Top

#14 JIM BOHANNON guestpert> components for 10 kiloton nuke devices have been secretly snuck SINCE 1998 into the USA on OBL's instruction via Mahico/Mexico, that several of these alleged devices are already assembled and ready for detonation at a PC time, Biowar andor Chemwar devices are also being prepared for detonation inside the USA. AMER HIROSHIMAS/NEW 9-11's WILL HAPPEN. * "SINCE 1998" > thus, of course, is Governor Dubya's fault.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-09-24 20:55|| 2006-09-24 20:55|| Front Page Top

#15 On a more optimistic note, another JIM BOHANNON show > Author[forgot name] of ROARING THUNDER = America may see within 10 years techy planes which can leave an airfield conventionally and FLY DIRECTLY INTO SPACE. The abovesame author also believes that the USDOD is giving up too many programs and warfighting assets [e.g. F117/SR71] which America still needs to effectivle fight the WOT, and that America as a consequence is being steadily and detrimentally "being virtually disarmed" in favor of SPACE at a time the WOT has not yet been won.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-09-24 21:03|| 2006-09-24 21:03|| Front Page Top

#16 Hell, I'm pissed off enough about not being able to carry on any lotions, gels, etc aboard a flight, (don't get me started on having to remove my dangerous flip flops to satisfy TSA) that if anyone acts up, I'd be willing to get medieval on their asses with little provocation.

I am not looking forward to my next flight at all, and coming from an airline brat that's major.

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