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2007-12-04 India-Pakistan
No more money to be paid to Russia for Gorshkov: Indian Naval Chief
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Posted by john frum 2007-12-04 05:26|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 This is one unhappy Admiral...

“When we took the Gorshkov which the Russians said they were giving free of cost, for just $1 (and for the cost of its refit), it was a sort of partnership. Of course we wanted that ship. We did a very detailed contract. It is a very good contract. When we went over there (to the Sevmash shipyard in Russia where the vessel is being refitted), the shipyard was in a decrepit state. Over the years we have seen how the shipyard has improved with our money... the workforce on the Gorshkov is far less than what we would like it to be,”

“Where is our relationship with Russia going?” the admiral wondered aloud rhetorically.

Posted by john frum 2007-12-04 05:37||   2007-12-04 05:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Note that in a few months, a US shipyard refitted the former USS Trenton LPD. It was sold to India for less than 40 million, complete with training for its crew. It is now the second largest warship in the Indian Navy
Posted by john frum 2007-12-04 05:43||   2007-12-04 05:43|| Front Page Top

#3 side view
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Posted by john frum 2007-12-04 05:52||   2007-12-04 05:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Let's see . . . Constellation is laid up in reserve, Kitty Hawk will be decommissioned in the near future, and John F. Kennedy was just decommissioned.

Just sayin' is all.
Posted by Mike 2007-12-04 08:05||   2007-12-04 08:05|| Front Page Top

#5 the Russian Government diverting the trained manpower engaged in the repair work

How very typically Russian (or Chinese). Do something nice for them, and they thank you by giving you the shaft. Such pleasant people.
Posted by gromky 2007-12-04 08:15||   2007-12-04 08:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Fearless Leader has altered the deal.

Posted by doc 2007-12-04 09:06||   2007-12-04 09:06|| Front Page Top

#7 The only question is whether the Indian's can learn better from experience than we do. I am optimistic. You won't see them attending a "peace conference" for Kashmir brokered by Dr. Rice any time soon.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-12-04 09:24||   2007-12-04 09:24|| Front Page Top

#8 I imagine this experience will be remembered the next time the Russians are trying to sell things to India. You don't mess with paying customers.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-12-04 11:21||   2007-12-04 11:21|| Front Page Top

#9 Let's not forget the USS Independence and the USS Ranger in Mike's line up of one owner boats.
Posted by USN,Ret. 2007-12-04 13:21||   2007-12-04 13:21|| Front Page Top

#10 Principle No. 1 in Business:

Do not f*ck over your clients. They are NOT a captive audience.

This could become an opportunity, all right, with the US.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2007-12-04 13:55||   2007-12-04 13:55|| Front Page Top

#11 Are ships under construction normally that rusty?
Posted by 3dc 2007-12-04 14:08||   2007-12-04 14:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Are ships under construction normally that rusty?

yep 3dc.. whenever da ship under construction are rusky!

/~:) horribilis.. i knows
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-12-04 14:31||   2007-12-04 14:31|| Front Page Top

#13 “Where is our relationship with Russia going?” the admiral wondered aloud rhetorically.

South hopefully.. but pragmatist on both sides will prevail...
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-12-04 14:34||   2007-12-04 14:34|| Front Page Top

#14 KOMMERSANT < RUSSIAN TANKS HEADED FOR INDIA. Up to 300 upgraded T-90S, but not at once.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-12-04 21:02||   2007-12-04 21:02|| Front Page Top

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