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2008-08-08 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Prince George's raid prompts call for probe

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Posted by Deacon Blues 2008-08-08 08:29|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 No, it's power without accountability. With criminals upgunning their own, the police have to match fire power. However, that firepower has to be under strict control. As demonstrated here and elsewhere, there is a serious lack of adult supervision in these operations. The amateur mayors and city councils and county commissioners have allowed their constabulary force to evolve para-military units without hard ROEs for their employment and accountability for their misuse. The pols who fund the budgets can cut the monetary backing of these operations if they choose to. They don't.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-08-08 10:20|| 2008-08-08 10:20|| Front Page Top

#2 They want to use SWAT for everything now days. Police forces everywhere are turning into paramilitary units. There's a place for them, but not in upper middle class suburbs. The guy's obviously a "sweater and loafers" pussweed, you probably don't need a machine gun to take him down. And I don't think I've ever seen a Lab that is vicious. They shot those dogs because they wanted to, not because they were attacking them. And by the way, isn't that what a dog is supposed to do when a bunch of guys kick in your door and attack your family???
I'd not quite until I had the balls of every one of those idiots in my lawyers briefcase.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-08-08 11:17|| 2008-08-08 11:17|| Front Page Top

#3 They need a Fusion Center to coordinate all law enforcement activity from the city, county, state, and federal levels. Des Moines has had one since 1985 but greatly expanded it since 9-11.

Posted by Danielle 2008-08-08 11:42|| 2008-08-08 11:42|| Front Page Top

#4 The reason the police and the government want to disarm you is to avoid any possibility of resistance to tyranny. If you can't see the writing on the wall now you need glasses.

Posted by Gleretle Big Foot9918 2008-08-08 11:58|| 2008-08-08 11:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Sounds like some of the crap Janet Reno pulled under the Clinton regime.

Posted by Bill Shusorong1219 2008-08-08 18:57|| 2008-08-08 18:57|| Front Page Top

#6 The police officers commanding and leading those who did this (including the leaders onsite) should be prosecuted for breaking and entering, illicit use of a firearm, kidnapping, and animal cruelty.

Their warrant did NOT authorize them to enter the hosue illegally.

The SWAT unit shoudl be disbanded with a permanent reprimand placed in every officers record as a bar to promotion.

The police MUST be held accountable for the misuse of military tactics, and violating fundamental constitutional rights of people.

This was truly a CRIMINAL act.

Publish the officer's faces and names. They must be held accountable to the public that employs and pays them - the very public they endangered.
They should be dismissed form the force and barred from ever serving as officers again.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-08 19:22|| 2008-08-08 19:22|| Front Page Top

#7 ANd stuff liek this scares the hell out of me - someone comeing into my house like that without proper identification is going to be doubletapped. Its instinct. I will likely be killed in the exchange, but I will certainly kill or wound several of them in the process, as I would beleive them to be criminals entering my home and threatening the life of me and mine.

The "no-knock" raid and use of SWAT teams should be viewed as a civil rights violation, due to its extreme consequences, and high potential for misuse. It shoudl not be routine, nor shoudl it be allowed as anything other than an affirmative defense - charges shoudl be routinely filed against the commanders and officers EVERY TIME one of these raids takes place. Make the PROVE it was needed and justified, or lese end thier careers.

If the police and commanders had to face consequences every time they do one of these, they would save them for when they are truly and overwhelmingly the only tool they havve available.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-08 19:26|| 2008-08-08 19:26|| Front Page Top

#8 This is happening many times everyday. Often with people shot and killed and no one held accountable. We are screwed as there is nothing anyone is going to do about it.

The War on Drugs was the beginning of the war on your civil right. The War on Terror is just going to increase the instances as everyone is now a potential "domestic terrorist". The terrorists have won and we did it to ourselves. It's just going to get worse and worse under the Democrats but the Democrats didn't start it.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2008-08-08 19:36|| 2008-08-08 19:36|| Front Page Top

#9 Jsut to let you know, the "dubletap" was not a threat - its simply the way I train. If you intend to be in a life and death situation and fight, then you must practive to efficiently kill your opponent. 2 to the chest and one ot the head if still standing is how I train, to the point of being instinct. Present, Front Sight, flash sight picture, trigger pull recover and pull, sight to head and pull. I've done it thousands of times from variosu positions, with dummy rounds in at random to simulate feed failures, etc.

And I dont use non-lethal ammunition either. High power load .40 S&W Hyrdashok rounds, one magazine of 10 in the Glock, and 2 in the drawer beside it.

No threat, just facts. And one of these times, the police will run into someone like that, and there will be plenty of dead people, all due to abuse of miitary tactics by police forces.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-08 19:38|| 2008-08-08 19:38|| Front Page Top

#10 This isnt the first time these assholes have raided innocents and killed the dogs:

Prince George's sheriff's deputies executed a warrant on the home of Frank and Pamela Myers of Accokeek in November. The Myers told sheriffs that they had the wrong address as their dog began barking from the yard. The couple asked if they could retrieve their dog, but deputies refused. Minutes later, two shots were fired and the dog was killed, according to a notice of a tort claims filed by attorney Michael J. Winkelman. The Myers were never charged and nothing was seized from their house.

"This has happened before, and without oversight, it will happen again," Calvo said

Charge the SWAT tema NOW.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-08 19:44|| 2008-08-08 19:44|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm not so sure I would charge the entire SWAT team but I would charge the ones who authorized the usage. This was not a situation where the SWAT team should have been involved at all. It was pot, fer gawdsakes! No "gunmen", no threat of violence, just somebody wanting to flex his muscles. OS, I would react the same way. Somebody breaks into my home they will be shot at. I'm a pretty good shot, too.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-08-08 21:06|| 2008-08-08 21:06|| Front Page Top

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