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2008-08-09 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia: Ukraine is helping Georgia
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Posted by lotp 2008-08-09 13:59|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 It added that ex-Soviet Ukraine had "no moral right to teach others how to do things."

Sounds like a child in power.
Posted by Cheretch Crereng9873 2008-08-09 14:33||   2008-08-09 14:33|| Front Page Top

#2 I bet he loses. This is not the old KGB cold war chess game days. This is denial of sovereign immunity and wholesale thuggery. If anyone deserves a humiliating bloody nose its this guy. Hollywood could not have even invented him.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2008-08-09 14:37||   2008-08-09 14:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Ukraine would know all about ethnic cleansing, by russians.
Posted by Chusosing the Eponymous6421 2008-08-09 15:20||   2008-08-09 15:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the West behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my mind

Aw come on!
Ho yeah!
Ho yeah!
Ho ho yeah!
Yeah yeah!

Yeah I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
You don't know how lucky you are boys
Back in the U.S.S.R.

"RED" DREAMS!
Posted by Bill Shusorong1219 2008-08-09 15:31||   2008-08-09 15:31|| Front Page Top

#5 Deploy a US Stryker Brigade to the Ukraine immediately - have them "invite" us there as a training exercise.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-09 15:33||   2008-08-09 15:33|| Front Page Top

#6 and start arming guerillas in other provinces. Show Putin that if he pushes us in one plae, we will cause him HUGE internal problems.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-09 15:35||   2008-08-09 15:35|| Front Page Top

#7 TelePort 2 Marine Divisions with their Prepositioned Store Ships immediately, like yesterday, or even earlier if possible. Back that up with napalm and MOABs
Posted by .5MT 2008-08-09 17:57|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2008-08-09 17:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Ukraine chicks are hot too!
Posted by Legolas 2008-08-09 18:22||   2008-08-09 18:22|| Front Page Top

#9 Actually, Ukraine has had US trainers and advisors, and we have agreements for a Stryker brigaed in the works for Romania.

So its not far fetched, and for the Ukraine, its probably the cheapest way of punching the russian akula in the nose with no real consequences.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-09 18:32||   2008-08-09 18:32|| Front Page Top

#10 And despite your rather fuckwitted snark .5mt, "immediately" does not mean teleport. It means draw up the orders, get everything prepped for transporation on trains, and prepare for a 60 day field rotation there as part of joint training exercises.

Irs doable, and plausible.

And like the announcing of the possibiity of drilling deflated the petroleum bubble, the announcment of this will put a check on the amount of pressure Russia can apply in the Ukraine.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-09 18:35||   2008-08-09 18:35|| Front Page Top

#11 The Russian Empire can't be reconstituted w/o Ukraine. Russian, German and French short sightedness is going to plunge Europe into war again.
Posted by ed 2008-08-09 18:38||   2008-08-09 18:38|| Front Page Top

#12 Ukraine is a split nation. Several hundred years of Russian colonization have produced Russian majority areas in Ukraine. Then there is annexation of Polish and other neighboring territory during WW2. Putting foreign troops in the ground will only exacerbate the split, maybe enough for the east, w/ Russia's brotherly assistance, to secede and join the Neo-SSR.

Better to provide assistance to those in Kiev who want to ally with the democracies. Ukraine has a large military and can defend it's turf.
Posted by ed 2008-08-09 18:55||   2008-08-09 18:55|| Front Page Top

#13 I agree, ed. The Ukranians will not suffer the Russians again.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2008-08-09 19:21||   2008-08-09 19:21|| Front Page Top

#14 Find that Russian beauty. Join free. Hmmmmm. What was the story about again? Oh, Ukraine is helping Georgia.
Posted by JohnQC 2008-08-09 19:42||   2008-08-09 19:42|| Front Page Top

#15 The Ukranians welcomed the Germans in WWII as liberators. Only when they proved to be worse than the Russians, did the Ukraine start to fight against them. The Ukraine will not put on the Russian yoke of rule easily once taken off.
Posted by DarthVader 2008-08-09 20:23||   2008-08-09 20:23|| Front Page Top

#16 The Ukrainians took part in that regional exercise in Georgia that just ended. They also have control of some of the Black Sea Fleet although how much of it, Russian or Ukrainian, is still functional is not known.

They would be a good surrogate for the US if assistance is to be provided to Georgia.
Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins  2008-08-09 22:01|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org]  2008-08-09 22:01|| Front Page Top

23:53 Bangkok Billy
23:33 CrazyFool
23:30 bman
23:18 Johnathan Arbuckle
23:00 badanov
22:45 Old Patriot
22:35 ed
22:26 Steve White
22:18 Pappy
22:14 Chuck Simmins
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22:08 Chuck Simmins
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21:48 ed
21:43 linker
21:25 Barbara Skolaut
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21:07 ed
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