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2008-10-07 Europe

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Posted by lotp 2008-10-07 08:33|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Well, that certainly comes as a shock to me. Wonder how the Brits feel about having their carriers escorted by German destroyers.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-10-07 09:07|| 2008-10-07 09:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Germany and Russia were allied once before, with disasterous results - can't imagine they really trust each other now.

Posted by Glenmore 2008-10-07 13:05|| 2008-10-07 13:05|| Front Page Top

#3 I did offer a nice (even if I say so myself)solution to the "German Question".

Posted by Yosip Djugashvilli 2008-10-07 13:57|| 2008-10-07 13:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Don't forget that half of Germany (well more like a fourth) sided with the Soviets throughout the cold war.

Personally I'm happy to let the rest of Europe worry about this stuff. Maybe they'll become less anti-American in the process.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-10-07 14:47|| 2008-10-07 14:47|| Front Page Top

#5 Well, judging from the existence and enforcement of the Wall, I would guess a substantial fraction of the East did not actually side with the Soviets.

Posted by Glenmore 2008-10-07 15:51|| 2008-10-07 15:51|| Front Page Top

#6 Very interesting article, lotp. Thanks for posting it.

Rantburgers can draw their own conclusions about appropriate US policy.

My conclusion is that NATO may be like a sand castle on the beach with the tide coming in.

Posted by ryuge 2008-10-07 16:37|| 2008-10-07 16:37|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't see any point in NATO existence.

Posted by General_Comment 2008-10-07 17:13|| 2008-10-07 17:13|| Front Page Top

#8 Glenmore, you are right, but there were a lot of BabyBoomer Germans on the West Side who ideologically allied with the Soviets as well.

General Comment, we all pretty much guessed your opinion. To tell you the truth a few months ago I didn't see the point to continuing NATO either but now I've seen the thuggish nature of Putin's Russia and I'm reevaluating that opinion. Only the general unworthiness of many European allies has made it even a question.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-10-07 18:11|| 2008-10-07 18:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Generally a nuisance:tThe propaganda's weak. Are you not getting direct deposits from the Homeland any more? I sense a lack of ....loyalty, and you know what that means....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-10-07 19:33|| 2008-10-07 19:33|| Front Page Top

#10 Ditch NATO. Replace it with 4 year mutual defence treaties with front line countries if you wish, but the fewer the better. EUrope is terminal. Do we really want an alliance with a muzzie country in 20 years?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-10-07 20:36|| 2008-10-07 20:36|| Front Page Top

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