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2008-11-07 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by DanNY 2008-11-07 09:10|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 We'll see. If the republicans cave and start not filibustering the bills for this, I might stock up more myself. I think the chance for a Civil War is greater than what it was, but still under the 15% mark.

We'll know more as Obama moves into the White House.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-11-07 09:39|| 2008-11-07 09:39|| Front Page Top

#2 Sen. Robert Toombs... Gentlemen of The General Assembly, 13 Nov 60. An extract thereof.

The instant the Government was organized, at the very first Congress, the Northern States evinced a general desire and purpose to use it for their own benefit, and to pervert its powers for sectional advantage, and they have steadily pursued that policy to this day.

They demanded a monopoly of the business of ship-building, and got a prohibition against the sale of foreign ships to citizens of the United States, which exists to this day. Even the fishermen of Massachusetts and New England demand and receive from the public treasury about half a million of dollars per annum as a pure bounty on their business of catching codfish.

The North, at the very first Congress, demanded and received bounties under the name of protection, for every trade, craft, and calling which they pursue, and there is not an artisan in brass, or iron, or wood, or weaver, or spinner in wool or cotton, or a calicomaker, or iron-master, or a coal-owner, in all of the Northern or Middle States, who has not received what he calls the protection of his government on his industry to the extent of from fifteen to two hundred per cent from the year 1791 to this day.

They will not strike a blow, or stretch a muscle, without bounties from the government. No wonder they cry aloud for the glorious Union; they have the same reason for praising it, that craftsmen of Ephesus had for shouting, "Great is Diana of the Ephesians," whom all Asia and the world worshipped.

With these vast advantages, ordinary and extraordinary, one would have supposed the North would have been content, and would have at least respected the security and tranquility of such obedient and profitable brethren; but such is not human nature. They despised the patient victims of their avarice, and they very soon began a war upon our political rights and social institutions, marked by every act of perfidy and treachery which could add a darker hue to such a warfare.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-11-07 10:37|| 2008-11-07 10:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Anyone remember the ATF and such agencies going after the "whites" in south GA and Florida swamps in the late 80's early 90's instead of pursuing Bin Laden and the likes .. This is what they where preparing for. Bet alot of ppl wished they had left them alone now.

Posted by chris 2008-11-07 11:09|| 2008-11-07 11:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Pfft. Toombs was an asshole.

I may be buying a gun for the first time in my life, but I won't be joining a 'militia'. Most of the chucklefucks you find in those groups either didn't vote, or voted for some worthless, crazed third party candidate.

Ugh. Trying to make the best of things, trying to hope for the least worst possible outcome.

At least the markets are indulging in a little dead-cat-bouncing today.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2008-11-07 11:09|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2008-11-07 11:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Masers are much more effective...

Posted by 3dc 2008-11-07 12:57|| 2008-11-07 12:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Not against my tin-foil armour, which also protects me against NSA mind-rays.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-11-07 13:34|| 2008-11-07 13:34|| Front Page Top

#7 If you were concerned about having weapons of self defense and the ammunition to feed them, you should have been thinking about that some time ago. Also you need the training to utilize these tools properly and safely.

Proactive, not reactive. Sun Tzu. Read him.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2008-11-07 13:35|| 2008-11-07 13:35|| Front Page Top

#8 A good crossbow, a strong slingshot, and the ability to create nasty surprises from just about anything are far more effective than any rifle. Rifles and pistols make noise. Crack someone's skull with a medium-sized rock (or half-inch ball bearings, which do a SUPER job), and all you hear is a dull thump as the victim falls. You have to be close - 12-25 feet - to be effective. If you need to stop someone farther away, a 150-lb crossbow firing plain wooden darts with fire-hardened points and common-bird fletches can reach out 50-150 yards and kill. I haven't killed anything with a crossbow in 20+ years, but the skills are still there. I probably do need some practice - guess I'd better hit the "range" before the snow's too deep.

The problem with trying to take over the United States is the same one our congresscritters have when they try to apply European-style culture on us - we're just too da$$$d big. There is no European country we can be compared with, and even trying to compare the US with ALL of Europe doesn't work. In Europe, it's difficult to drive 500 miles and not cross at least one national boundary. We have areas where towns are 20-30 MILES apart. There are few places in Europe where there isn't a town every 10 KILOMETERS - or less. Europeans tend to bunch up in cities, Americans tend to spread out in suburbs and rural areas. Just as it proved too difficult for the Germans to adequately manage even part of Russia, it would be all but impossible for the government of the United States to control more than small areas of this nation. Obama may talk all he wants, but the reality of the situation is against him.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-11-07 20:08|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-11-07 20:08|| Front Page Top

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