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2009-10-17 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Fred 2009-10-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Warms my heart.

Posted by gorb 2009-10-17 00:27|| 2009-10-17 00:27|| Front Page Top

#2 These problems lead into the real issue, which is that pre-satellite era the measurements and data just aren't good enough to say whether the 20th century warmed or cooled.

For most of the planet (the oceans) and for most of the 20th century, the main way temperatures were measured was to throw a bucket over the side of a ship, haul it up on deck and stick a thermometer in it. Clearly, such a method will be subject to many large influences. Much larger than the claimed temperature increases.

Yet this data goes into the climate models that confident predict temperatures a 100 years in the future.

There are similar sampling issues with land based temperatures.

Posted by phil_b 2009-10-17 01:58|| 2009-10-17 01:58|| Front Page Top

#3 The FARK.com CATZ frown heavily on those HUSKY DAWG-WITH-SUNGLASSES shennigans.

Posted by JosephMendiola">JosephMendiola 2009-10-17 02:07|| NA]">[NA] 2009-10-17 02:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Doesn't matter: Global Warming is Pravda for people running USA now.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-10-17 07:57|| 2009-10-17 07:57|| Front Page Top

#5 > Yet this data goes into the climate models that confident predict temperatures a 100 years in the future.

It wouldn't matter if that data was 100% accurate. You cannot model the future accurately. The amount of error grows exponentially until it swamps any signal.

At 95% model accuracy (an over-estimate) it will take 13-14 "loops" to have a 50% chance of accuracy.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-10-17 10:37|| 2009-10-17 10:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Time for "Cap and trade" to get "capped."

Posted by JohnQC 2009-10-17 16:04|| 2009-10-17 16:04|| Front Page Top

#7 "prediction is hard, especially when it is about the future."

Posted by eLarson 2009-10-17 19:32|| 2009-10-17 19:32|| Front Page Top

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