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Posted by Fred 2009-11-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top
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#1 Does anyone have an explanation for the proliferation of Somali's and Hmong in Minnesota - all from tropical or rather warmer than Minnesota climes?

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2009-11-25 04:24|| 2009-11-25 04:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Minnesota has (had?) an uncommonly liberal (neo and classical) and welcoming people. Maine too.

Posted by Glenmore 2009-11-25 08:47|| 2009-11-25 08:47|| Front Page Top

#3 uncommonly liberal (neo and classical) and welcoming people.
I.e. High welfare payments.

Maine too.

Posted by ed 2009-11-25 08:57|| 2009-11-25 08:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Minneapolis/St. Paul....A city of suckers.

Posted by whitecollar redneck 2009-11-25 09:51|| 2009-11-25 09:51|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't know about the Somalis, but Lutheran churches helped settle the Hmong here after Vietnam. Many of the churches were based in Minnesota and Wisconsin. The Hmong, by and large, haven't been welfare cases. The churches sponsored them to help them get started, and then they and their families work very hard. There are a lot of Hmong in our local schools here, and they tend to be high achievers. It'd take me a while to list here what my daughter's Hmong friends and their families have achieved.

Posted by mom">mom 2009-11-25 10:19|| 2009-11-25 10:19|| Front Page Top

#6 There is a disturbing aspect of news reports that emphasize recruitment. First, it marginalizes the primary perpetrators the Jihadists themselves. If these guys simply want to have fun shooting guns all they have to do is hang out with their fellow Somali gangbangers in the Cedar Riverside neighborhood. Second, it dismisses responsibility of the culture that fosters such actions. Somali culture is one of tribal grudges that grew from decades of famine and civil war. Somali immigrants are amongst the least trusting of authority and most resistant to assimilation. Third, it refuses to confront the true basis for the recruitment the strict Islamic dogma preached at the Twin City mosques. The Imams have been careful not to preach Violent Jihad in earshot of the greater public. However, they make no attempts to hide their beliefs when it comes to the conflicts between Sharia and the laws of their adopted country. Nor do they shy away from their open distaste for US policies towards Ethiopia and beyond. Obviously, its more comfortable for the media to blame a few bad actors but the recruitment networks are just a sliver of the entire story.

Posted by DepotGuy 2009-11-25 10:30|| 2009-11-25 10:30|| Front Page Top

#7 IIUC the Ethiopian immigrants across the midwest (esp in Columbus OH, maybe WI and MN also) have assimilated well and are economically self-sufficient. If so, then the Somali exception prob'y has more to do w you-know-what than any cultural or regional explanation.

Posted by lex 2009-11-25 10:57|| 2009-11-25 10:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Wait a minute, people. The articles says people from Somalia are recruiting young people of Somali descent in Minneapolis for jihad in Somalia? We should encourage that. We should buy them one-way tickets to jihad. But we should revoke their passports and US citizenship at the same time. IOW, they can leave any time they want but they can never come back. What's the problem with that?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2009-11-25 11:31|| 2009-11-25 11:31|| Front Page Top

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