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2009-12-03 Science & Technology

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Posted by Fred 2009-12-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 The ferocious determination to impose hair-shirt policies on the public combined with the public losing what few shirts they have in the economic crisis may be the end of global warmism.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2009-12-03 00:34|| 2009-12-03 00:34|| Front Page Top

#2 D *** NG IT, well clearly only eeveerrryyyyttthhhiiinnnnnggggg and aaaaannnnnnyyyttttthhhhiiiiinnngg in US-World Govt-Society needs SOCIALISM = GOVT. CONTROL + SUPER/HYPER REGULATION!

The ARMY-POLICE RECCE STATE, NOT merely the NANNY STATE.

Posted by JosephMendiola">JosephMendiola 2009-12-03 00:35|| na]">[na] 2009-12-03 00:35|| Front Page Top

#3 OOOOOOOPPPPPSSSIES, forgot JOY BEHAR Show > said FASCISTS + SOCIALISTS are not the same!

And COMMIES + SOCIALISTS, COMMUNITARIANS, UNITARIANS, etc.???

D *** NG IT, we all know how THE SIMPSONS' "NED FLANDERS" FEELS ABOUT [religious] UNITARIANS, NOW DON'T WE?

Posted by JosephMendiola">JosephMendiola 2009-12-03 00:40|| na]">[na] 2009-12-03 00:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Is it possible to write 's*ci*lism' in comments now or has JoeM developed superpowers?

Posted by SteveS 2009-12-03 01:33|| 2009-12-03 01:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Test
SOCIALISM/socialism
SOCIALISTS/socialists

Posted by twobyfour 2009-12-03 02:25|| 2009-12-03 02:25|| Front Page Top

#6 I can haz sooperpowers too!

Posted by twobyfour 2009-12-03 02:26|| 2009-12-03 02:26|| Front Page Top

#7 He's dead, Jim.

Posted by Angleton9 2009-12-03 05:38|| 2009-12-03 05:38|| Front Page Top

#8 I think this should be a classic, too. (Glaciers to melt in 2350, not 2035) I didn't read it until yesterday, however:

That was a 1996 study, well before the cooling trend seemed to appear out of nowhere (the last ten years). Then I went to the original report, cited in the article, and found it was dated Moscow, October, 1991, and was about hydrology the effect of runoff from melting glaciers. Somebody was cherry picking old, old data, taking it out of context, and mis-quoting it, to boot. Figures dont lie, but clever people can abuse them.

Posted by Bobby 2009-12-03 06:03|| 2009-12-03 06:03|| Front Page Top

#9 I still expect this to get buried by the national news. It's not important like a male members' only golf club.

Posted by ed 2009-12-03 07:09|| 2009-12-03 07:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Latest news: major lawsuit in the works against GISS, for refusing to turn over FOIA data. The deadline is now the end of December. Because the scientist behind the lawsuit sent in his FOIA request early, any destruction of data will be a criminal offense.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-12-03 08:36|| 2009-12-03 08:36|| Front Page Top

#11 My Grandfather (RIP) used to say: "Figures don't lie, but liars sure can figure...."

Posted by Uncle Phester 2009-12-03 13:02|| 2009-12-03 13:02|| Front Page Top

#12 Phester, there are two similar sayings. I have heard one attributed to Twain and one to Will Rogers.

Around my house it was figures don't lie, liars figure usually coupled with lies, damn lines and statistics.

The first thing I learned in my intro to statistics course, lo these many years ago, was how easy it is to game the numbers.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2009-12-03 13:57|| 2009-12-03 13:57|| Front Page Top

#13 how easy it is to game the numbers.

Oh my goodness yes, Alan. Not only that, but it is perilously easy for even honest investigators to find the answer they hoped for either by asking poor questions or by not probing deeply enough into the answers obtained from good ones. This is how good companies make costly business mistakes, which cost is an instant indication that one of the above has occurred. Basic research does not have the same kind of quick feedback mechanism, and must rely on reproducibility... which relies on the open sharing of raw data and methods, as we here all know.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-12-03 16:25|| 2009-12-03 16:25|| Front Page Top

#14 perhaps its all a farce, what isnt a farce is that we still need to stop buying oil from the insane muslims of the middle east thereby fueling their madness and ability to get at us. just a thought....

Posted by 746 2009-12-03 16:32|| 2009-12-03 16:32|| Front Page Top

#15 It'll help if we could drill (and dig) here - oh and fire up a few CO2 belching coal plants - and not a few Nuclear plants instead of waiting for a 'green' solution which they will never allow anyway.

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-12-03 16:46|| 2009-12-03 16:46|| Front Page Top

#16 Al Gore just bailed out of Copenhagen. Can't imagine why.

Posted by Grunter 2009-12-03 17:19|| 2009-12-03 17:19|| Front Page Top

#17 Grunter, maybe he found out that people were shelling out $1200+ not to meet him, but to challenge him.
Or maybe to punch him in the nose. (Not that I am recommending that, of course, Fred.)

Posted by Rambler in Virginia">Rambler in Virginia 2009-12-03 19:50|| 2009-12-03 19:50|| Front Page Top

#18 ...maybe he found out that the Blood Eagle wasn't another spiffy award for him to pick up in Copenhagen.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-12-03 21:39|| 2009-12-03 21:39|| Front Page Top

#19 I don't expect to see a lot of "Gore Award" aspirants in the future. Perhaps John Edwards, but that's it

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-12-03 22:38|| 2009-12-03 22:38|| Front Page Top

#20 the Blood Eagle

A distressing thought, Procopius2k.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-12-03 23:00|| 2009-12-03 23:00|| Front Page Top

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