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2011-04-12 Africa North

Libya: 35 pro-Gaddafi killed near Ajdabiya

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Posted by Fred 2011-04-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 I've seen a lot of back and fourth, but not so much of the body counts.

I wonder of this war involves more running than fighting?

Posted by Bobby 2011-04-12 06:07|| 2011-04-12 06:07|| Front Page Top

#2 They're Arabs. Look for a lot of firing in the general direction of, gun sex, and mustache cursing.

Posted by Fred 2011-04-12 09:50|| 2011-04-12 09:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Primitive warfare with modern toys. It's not so much about pitting industrial or technological edge or utilizing structured forces with specific doctrine as much as basically tribes/clans vying over territory or range or hierarchical dominance.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-04-12 10:03|| 2011-04-12 10:03|| Front Page Top

#4 ..Letting my mind run away for a moment, but I wonder how many of our problems in that Part Of The World would be solved if we just went full SPQR on them - bomb and vaporize their military toys into nothingness, wipe out the 'Death to Everybody' types, and let whoever we leave in charge know that as long as the oil flows at about, say, $50/bbl, they can do whatever they want as long as it does not involve annoying us. Something reasonably approximating a mildly authoritarian republic would be nice, but that's just us.

And then we leave, until they annoy us, then we rinse/repeat until they get the message. It would n't take more than a couple times before people might get the idea.

Sorry if that sounds unpleasant. I am just having a harder and harder time every day feeling sorry for anyone in Africa or the ME/PGR any more.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2011-04-12 10:31|| 2011-04-12 10:31|| Front Page Top

#5 I agree entirely, the phrase is "Take names and kick Butt" we're past the "Take names "Part and well into the "Kick Butt' part.
So KICK ASS.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-04-12 10:52|| 2011-04-12 10:52|| Front Page Top

#6 Mike, I'd be more inclined to practice conservation AND develop our own energy resources so we could leave these people to their own devices. You might call it disengagement. Then they could eat sand, murder each other and suffer from their own stupidity until such time as they are all dead or, probably far less likely, a little more evolved.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-04-12 12:05|| 2011-04-12 12:05|| Front Page Top

#7 "Sorry if that sounds unpleasant."

Not to me it doesn't, Mike.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-12 12:59|| 2011-04-12 12:59|| Front Page Top

#8 BTW, has anyone else actually read the caption on the picture shown above?

ROFLMAO, Fred! :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-12 13:00|| 2011-04-12 13:00|| Front Page Top

#9 The term you want to use is "going Mongol", as in Genghis Kahn. We need to pulverize Tripoli with multiple ARCLIGHT strikes, two or three hours apart, for about four or five days. The (very few) survivors can tell the rest what it was like. THEN we can dictate terms to the "winner" (I.E., whomever we allow to survive). The Arab world has never suffered a truly CRUSHING defeat since the time of Genghis Kahn. They need one, just to be reminded that the winner, not the whiner, dictates the terms. A LOT of our problems in this world would disappear if we were truly the nation of Teddy Roosevelt -- "Speak softly, but carry a BIG stick." We also need to USE that stick once in a while.

Posted by Old Patriot 2011-04-12 14:28|| 2011-04-12 14:28|| Front Page Top

#10 Where was Carthage? In or near present-day Libya somewhere. They p*ssed off the Romans one too many times and look where it got them. Might be a lesson in there someplace - for Daffy and the West.

Posted by Glenmore 2011-04-12 18:42|| 2011-04-12 18:42|| Front Page Top

#11 'Introduce me to a Carthaginian' is my refrain to the old mantra that 'war doesn't solve anything'.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-04-12 19:06|| 2011-04-12 19:06|| Front Page Top

#12 Carthage, or what is left of it, is in Tunisia. The Carthaginian Empire stretched around the western Mediterranean. Carthage was established by the Phoenicians from present day Lebanon.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-04-12 19:18|| 2011-04-12 19:18|| Front Page Top

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