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2011-10-21 Home Front: Politix
Napolitano: DHS Authorizing Illegal Aliens to Work in U.S.
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Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-10-21 00:38|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 (1) Reform the Visa laws to allow more folks with skills to come in legally and to monitor them (2) Pass eVerify to stop the hiring(3) Build fences to lesson the reamining flow (4) Have the military practice interdiction in the remaining desert areas (5) Pass a law that holds illegal federal offenders to especially long sentences. (6) Promote the whole thing as an effort to help the poor immigrants and migrant workers and stop the drug and human trafficing.

Problem would be solved fairly rapidly.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-10-21 10:25||   2011-10-21 10:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Who authorized DHS to authorize illegals to work here? Doesn't that come under the jurisdiction of the State Department? I'm no lawyer but it sounds like Big Sis is overstepping her bounds.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-10-21 11:49||   2011-10-21 11:49|| Front Page Top

#3 simpler solution rjschwarz:

increase the fine for illegally employing illegal aliens to the neighborhood of $10K per illegal. then pay out 1/2 the fine as a reward for 'dropping the dime' on an employer who is in violation.

everyone that works at acme corp knows they use illegals, and would happily rat them out for $5k. acme corp knows this, so they purge their payrolls.

without a money line, those here illegally self deport.

word spreads in the home country, the flood stops.
Posted by abu do you love 2011-10-21 12:08||   2011-10-21 12:08|| Front Page Top

#4 let me guess what's next.... DHS allows them to vote next year?
Posted by Frank G 2011-10-21 12:22||   2011-10-21 12:22|| Front Page Top

#5 It's your local Registrar of Voters who lets them vote.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2011-10-21 13:06||   2011-10-21 13:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Why not AUCTION the right to work legally.

Those who paid who have an incentive to inform on free-loaders.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-10-21 13:23||   2011-10-21 13:23|| Front Page Top

#7  It's your local Registrar of Voters who lets them vote.

Tell me about it. Of course those same registrars seem to have had a lot of problems getting the absentee ballots to the troops IAW federal law in a timely manner. Not that DoJ is concerned about that either.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-10-21 13:40||   2011-10-21 13:40|| Front Page Top

#8 #6: Why not AUCTION the right to work legally.

You're kidding, right?

The people who can get in legally are already those who are willing and able to fork over $400 to $600 per document, repeatedly, and wait however many years for the bureaucrats to look at their papers, again. Middle daughter's first wedding anniversary came and went with her husband still waiting for his visa. She has spent more than $2000 on documents so far, plus fees for her immigration lawyer. Between the time she filed the first set and the time, nine months later, when ICE got around to looking at it, they changed the rules and rejected her application even though it was correct according to the rules at the time it was filed.

Meanwhile, the UndieBomber got his visa with no trouble because his daddy was rich enough that Immigration figured he had a good enough life in Nigeria that he'd be willing to go back to it. And his daddy had he money to keep on filing forms as needed.

Our son in law is from a small village, started school at age 11, won a high school scholarship at age 16 and then won a prestigious university scholarship, one of maybe 800 to be accepted out of 80,000 applicants, and is now a teacher whenever the govt has actual money to pay teachers (when it doesn't, our SIL unloads freighters). He's not considered worthy enough of a US visa by our bureaucrats, apparently.
Posted by mom 2011-10-21 13:41||   2011-10-21 13:41|| Front Page Top

#9 What about those companies that in good faith submit employee information for eVerify, only to get in trouble when illegals are found? It's been known to happen, though less often than the other way round...
Posted by trailing wife 2011-10-21 14:02||   2011-10-21 14:02|| Front Page Top

#10 The legals bust ass and pay bills to be so, a general hand waive amnesty is really a disservice to those who do so.

Auction, don't think so, rather be around one good man from Mexico than 10 of these Undiebomber Princes.
Posted by swksvolFF 2011-10-21 15:05||   2011-10-21 15:05|| Front Page Top

#11 It's your local Registrar of Voters who lets them vote.

as well as the dead, felons, and imaginary friends.
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-10-21 15:24||   2011-10-21 15:24|| Front Page Top

#12 mom - I feel your pain. Just want until the state department gets a hold of it. (State is the ones who conduct the interview and issue the actual Visa). Been there... done that. Didn't even get a frigging T-shirt. (did however get a wonderful wife - in spite of them.).

Meanwhile this cow is allowing people who violate our laws to come here and take jobs americans are fully willing to do. "prosecutorial discretion" my ass - this is aiding and abedding a criminal act.
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-10-21 15:35||   2011-10-21 15:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Does that not exceed her authority?
Posted by JohnQC 2011-10-21 16:57||   2011-10-21 16:57|| Front Page Top

#14 Well, the AG breaks laws all the time, and so far he has not o-fish-ally exceeded his authority......
Posted by Alaska Paul 2011-10-21 17:24||   2011-10-21 17:24|| Front Page Top

#15 "Mom",

I cannot see your point? Auction = less bureaucrats.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-10-21 18:27||   2011-10-21 18:27|| Front Page Top

#16 Auction = less bureaucrats.
You're up too late, BP.

Filing the paperwork feels like the equivalent of a crooked auction. I'm reminded of the swine of a realtor who jiggered the auction of my late cousin's property so that a black family couldn't buy the house.

If you're from some countries (a relative of King Abdullah, for example), you get the express lane. If you have a college education from certain countries, you have an easier time. If you're from certain other countries, and don't have the front money as the Undiebombers' daddy did, the bureaucrats drag and drag and drag the process out and hope you go away. Of course they still eat your fees.
Posted by mom 2011-10-21 19:41||   2011-10-21 19:41|| Front Page Top

#17 Congress makes the laws, the Executive branch enforces them. Executive agencies cannot make regulations that conflict with the legislation that authorizes the scope of the agency's powers.

DHS isn't making regulations or, incredibly, doing anything illegal. As a member of the Obama administration, Incompetano is an executive official, which decides, as a matter of policy, which laws to enforce. I.e., the executive is just reporting to the legislative specifically how and to what extent they do not plan to enforce certain of their stupid so-called "laws."

Since it's all policy and politics, the only remedy is elections.
Posted by RandomJD 2011-10-21 19:44||   2011-10-21 19:44|| Front Page Top

#18 I forgot to add: some political analysts have noticed that BHO seems to have his foot on the gas with his commie wish list, as if to say, TOGA! TOGA! TOGA! since they know Delta House will all probably be expelled next year anyway.
Posted by RandomJD 2011-10-21 20:00||   2011-10-21 20:00|| Front Page Top

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