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2019-07-25 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Poll: Israelis Find the Security Establishment "Too Timid"

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Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2019-07-25 07:19|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 No shit. Every country's majority will say the same thing.

It's true not just for the Israeli security establishment but every home/domestic/law department everywhere. Except maybe States that don't subscribe wisely so to the great modernist "ethic of arbitrary humanism."

It's why I say democracy is a con. You can't claim to be democracies without carrying out the will of the majority. Blood ! I voted for blood ! Governments the world over are too politically correct and deliberative, they give too much weight to considerations of 'humanism' and 'sanctity of life' and 'rights'.

Law enforcement (higher) bureaucracies have no clear standards, just a bunch of hypocritical, ambivalent and amorphous guidelines for preserving the enemy's right to co-exist and leaving conditions more or less as they are. There is an unstated shying away from aggressiveness and the stress is on devising strategies to rather alter oneself. Security agencies and military is used in order to make the enemy 'realize the wrongness of their actions' or the futility of continuing the fight. This is not called fighting for what's rightfully yours. It's like even you aren't convinced yet.

The enemies of society on the other hand, are unbound by these timid conventions. Their gloves are always off.

Terms like 'combat this menace', 'dealing with', 'strict action', etc need to be replaced with 'neutralize', 'liquidate' and 'terminated'. What the world needs is more kill orders and renditions, mysterious suicides and state sponsored drive-bys.

'Everything is right until it's wrong. You'll know when it's wrong.' - Hemingway, I think.

Why can't the duvdevan be diversified into hit-squads that strike tagged targets within the Paleo quarters and scatter ? Or outside talent, proxies of Arab and mixed decent be used to eliminate larger numbers ? IEDs be used to make their UN donated civilian infrastructure harmful to Paleo lives ? Of course the military can do it, maybe even itching to, but will the legislatures let them ?

The same goes for India, Myanmar, China, the Philippines, even the US and all EU countries who have realized who their enemies are but find themselves at a loss for measures against their rising tide and ferocity. All democracies, all helpless because of self-neutered policies of reformist law enforcement and faux-humanist conventions of accommodation and appeasement.

'You can tame the four-footed beast by making it respect you. For the beast who walks upright, you must become what he fears.' - Some ancient wise guy.

I'm raving, I know...huff... huff...huff... !

Posted by Dron66046 2019-07-25 10:13|| 2019-07-25 10:13|| Front Page Top

#2 Daniel Pipes is always worth reading in full.

Dron64066, the Israelis have been out almost every night arresting Palestinians and Arab Israelis either for plotting attacks or for having attacked, which is why the number of knife and car attacks, bombings, and shootings have dropped so significantly since the start of the current effort. Yes, some of them do it for street cred or to get the PA to pay money to their families — or are attempting suicide by IDF — but even so, it is certainly a step in the right direction. And, after having spent their hothead years locked up, many have become ready to settle down with a wife and a job, not continue causing trouble.

As for the rest of your rant, it seems to me that the current trend of electing more conservative governments shows that the common folk of much of the world are heading in your direction.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-07-25 10:43|| 2019-07-25 10:43|| Front Page Top

#3 Timing is everything Dron66046 - currently the only workable solution is politically infeasible.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-07-25 12:12|| 2019-07-25 12:12|| Front Page Top

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