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2019-10-31 Home Front: Politix
Jerry Brown Blames Trump, Republicans for California Fires: ‘The Blood Is on Your Soul’
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Posted by Fred 2019-10-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ]  Top

#1 Buffoon.

You didn't f--king clear the brush, and so you have created a catastrophe that was easily avoided.

Don't disgrace yourself and insult our intelligence by blaming others for your utterly moronic mistakes and contemptible negligence.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-31 00:17||   2019-10-31 00:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Bush once told Calif Gov Davis to go fly a kite as well.
Posted by crazyhorse 2019-10-31 00:48||   2019-10-31 00:48|| Front Page Top

#3 The triangle of fire:

  • Oxygen—all around you

  • Ignition source—may be lightning, spark, match, etc.

  • Fuel— lots around power lines and forests not maintained.


The one thing you can do to mitigate the hazard is to reduce the fuel. This is what a rational person would do. But they are in short supply in Kaliphornia.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2019-10-31 00:49||   2019-10-31 00:49|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 Bush once told Calif Gov Davis to go fly a kite as well.

Gray "Pay to Play" Davis.

Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown.

Gavin "Alley Cat / Alkie Cat" Newsom.

That's Mexifornia, Jake.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-31 00:55||   2019-10-31 00:55|| Front Page Top

#5 We recalled Davis....and now there is a recall move on for Gavin.
Posted by crazyhorse 2019-10-31 01:50||   2019-10-31 01:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Picture a line of POWERLINES going up and over a hill but picture those Powerlines in California. they don't CLEAR the trees back from the Powerlines in California....no clear cutting trees away from branches falling on power lines. So lets remedy that by turning off the ELECTRICITY. And the flames are heading your way....but you can't get away because you own an environmentally safe Tesla...or was it a Prius?
No place to CHARGE your car. Lats hope you can get off the Mountain if you coast. Vote Democrat and be environmentally cool. And NEVER clear cut a hundred yards back from a power line. Its against NATURE. Do it for the Children...like your kids. The ones who burned to death in your electric Tesla.
Posted by Snemble Ebbaick7350 2019-10-31 04:55||   2019-10-31 04:55|| Front Page Top

#7 The cost of Green is huge!
Posted by 3dc 2019-10-31 06:47||   2019-10-31 06:47|| Front Page Top

#8 have identified climate change as the cuplrit

Spontaneous Environment Combustion.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-10-31 06:55||   2019-10-31 06:55|| Front Page Top

#9 Climate change is the cause of brush fires in an area tucked between a desert and the ocean, where for months at a time dry air blows in from the desert, dessicating everything.

Uh-huh. Sure.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2019-10-31 07:13||   2019-10-31 07:13|| Front Page Top

#10 We are led by morons.
What an unbelievably stupid, shitty political class we have.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-31 07:43||   2019-10-31 07:43|| Front Page Top

#11 We are led by morons. What an unbelievably stupid, shitty political class we have.

"It's the best money can buy."
~ Will Rogers.... I believe.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-31 07:45||   2019-10-31 07:45|| Front Page Top

#12 ^ True.

"Pay to Play" Davis gave CA the original brownouts in 2000 when he invited Enron in as part of his corrupt, incompetently managed attempt at deregulating the energy market.

His successors incl Moonbeam foisted the renewable burden onto PG&E-- a renewables push that is laced with fraud and sweetheart deals, both potential (cf. the blatant attempt to grab billions in public funds by the Kleiner Perkins billionaire's referendum that the voters, fortunately, shot down) and actual (cf. Al Gore's idiotic electric car venture's sweetheart deals with DOE).

Scams, incompetence, and now third world style blackouts.

= The Shitshow, west coast run.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-31 07:54||   2019-10-31 07:54|| Front Page Top

#13 #10....true, true and more true. Absolutely true.
Posted by Uleck Spererong9442 2019-10-31 09:20||   2019-10-31 09:20|| Front Page Top

#14 Typical leftist playbook.

Fuck everything up and blame the other side.
Posted by DarthVader 2019-10-31 09:41||   2019-10-31 09:41|| Front Page Top

#15 Pete Wilson (R) is primarily to blame as he governed California during the huge economic boom of the 90s and had the money and momentum to have buried the power lines but didn't.
Posted by rjschwarz 2019-10-31 09:55||   2019-10-31 09:55|| Front Page Top

#16 Gray David(D), Arnold Schwarzenegger (?), Jerry Brown(D) and Gavin Newsom(D) also get some blame as the problem was there even if the piles of money weren't. They could have and should have done something but preferred to pass the buck and wag their fingers.

Also you can see Californi's problem in that list. We used to trade off between parties so one could undo the excesses of the other but Wilson really didn't do much, and Arnold was a Republican but not really and he faced a solid Dem State Senate so he was useless. After that it was Democrat after Democrat and now the balance is long gone and the state be unfixable.
Posted by rjschwarz 2019-10-31 09:59||   2019-10-31 09:59|| Front Page Top

#17 One person's regulatory-cost is another insider's rent-seeking.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-10-31 10:25||   2019-10-31 10:25|| Front Page Top

#18 Gov Gavin Newsom is beginning to feel the heat of these fires because of anger over the blackouts to prevent fires.
The governor blamed the electric utilities for the cause of the fires and PG&E was driven into bankruptcy from 30 billion in legal claims.
Running high tension power lines through a forest is risky business.
Blame rural electrification (a liberal agenda)?
Or blame environmentalist because they don't allow clear cutting around power lines or
because green power requires distant generation sources so California has to bring in power from out of state.
Paradise built their town in the middle of a beautiful forest in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada Mountains
where logging was banned decades ago and fire fighting has prevented natural clearing of underbrush
and you get the Camp Fire tinder box where 85 people were burned to death because they could not get out of the forest in time.
Now there are a lot of causes that have nothing to do with global warming.
The Santa Ana winds have been around long before there was global warming.
The resultant fires were only a problem because those who couldn't afford to live in the city started to build in the foothills around Los Angeles when a run down house on a 50 ft by a 100 ft lot costs over half a million dollars.
Jerry Brown is trying to CYA for Gavin Newsom because in 2003 Dem Gray Davis was recalled and replaced by Arnold Schwarzenegger
because he failed to keep the lights on during the California electricity crisis.
The environmentalist were trying to promote green energy and prevent the building of new carbon based power plants.
Because California let energy lobbyists write legislation that required utility companies to make up the production shortfall by buying on the spot market
companies like Enron were able to game the system by creating artificial shortfalls by taking power plants offline during peak demand causing the wholesale spot market prices would soar.
Please, reference the California electricity crisis
At the same time legislation capped the retail rates CA utility companies could charge its customers.
So PG&E went bankrupt and SCE almost went bankrupt
(Enron's greed caused it to overspeculate on high energy prices.
Five months after PG&E bankruptcy the 9/11 attacks occurred and energy prices immediately declined.
Enron was overleveraged but tried to cook the books so it took three months for investors to figure that Enron was bankrupt.)
During high demand the utility companies would just introduce rolling blackouts to cap peak demands
rather than be blackmailed by high spot market prices from the greedy out of state suppliers.
Gov Gray Davis declared a state of emergency but never solved the problem
because he was beholden to those who wanted a crisis to fulfill their agenda (agendas that sound a lot like current crop of presidential candidates green agendas).
So Gray Davis was recalled just like Jimmy Carter because he let the Arabs blackmail us over a barrel of oil.
Bankrupt and regulated utility companies do not invest in infrastructure so power lines will sage and fail and cause fires in the future.
Corruption causes more corruption and a downward spiral like Venezuela.
Corrupt people protect themselves by blaming others.
Hugo Chavez blamed president Bush.
Democrats blamed Bush for Katrina so we got Barack Obama.
Now Gov Brown blames Trump for global warming and California fires.
So impeach Trump to stop global warming and fires??
Or will we end up with a bankrupt nation like California which is on the verge of bankruptcy in a booming economy if we give in to the Left wing?
If the Democrats win I would invest in long extension cords and good fire insurance!

Posted by boomerc 2019-10-31 11:27||   2019-10-31 11:27|| Front Page Top

#19 California had forest fires before Trump. Many people attribute wildfires to bad public policy having to do with forest management. Environmentalists have had too much sway?

I've heard it said that California’s four seasons were: flood, fire, earthquake and riot.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-31 16:04||   2019-10-31 16:04|| Front Page Top

#20 Did Trump cause the fires in the Amazon too?
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-31 16:06||   2019-10-31 16:06|| Front Page Top

#21 ^ Of course he did.
Posted by San Fran Nan 2019-10-31 17:30||   2019-10-31 17:30|| Front Page Top

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