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2023-02-17 Government Corruption
Why is Biden so Oddly Silent about the Ohio Train Disaster?
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Posted by Besoeker 2023-02-17 02:36|| || Front Page|| [15 views ]  Top

#1 Biden and his controllers know the firing of Buttigieg would be political disaster for the party.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-02-17 02:41||   2023-02-17 02:41|| Front Page Top

#2 'The response of a true coward': CEO of Ohio rail disaster firm Norfolk Southern gets blasted on Twitter for an open letter saying 'we will not walk away' - hours after he failed to show at a town hall meeting due to safety fears
Posted by Skidmark 2023-02-17 07:10||   2023-02-17 07:10|| Front Page Top

#3 GREG GUTFELD: Biden is ignoring the train derailment in Ohio


Posted by Skidmark 2023-02-17 07:20||   2023-02-17 07:20|| Front Page Top

#4 ^ They'll vote dem in 2024 for sure.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-02-17 07:22||   2023-02-17 07:22|| Front Page Top

#5 I thought our favorite crony capitalist,Warren Buffet, got into railroad stocks big-time under (and with the help & assistance of) N'Obama. Perhaps he unloaded those shares or it was not Norfolk Southern. Time to check Berkshire Hathaway's SEC filings.
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-02-17 07:23||   2023-02-17 07:23|| Front Page Top

#6 This is a large federal government sanction chem spill in the headwaters of the Ohio which feeds the Mississippi. Ignoring this issue will work out worse than the baby food blunder.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-02-17 07:50||   2023-02-17 07:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Missourians are the most unfriendly people I ever met, so let them be poisoned.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-02-17 07:52||   2023-02-17 07:52|| Front Page Top

#8 No doubt. Quite myopic if the feds think this is a "local issue". The Ohio River is not some stream full of snail darters.
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-02-17 07:52||   2023-02-17 07:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Show me
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-02-17 07:53||   2023-02-17 07:53|| Front Page Top

#10 However, they're coming for your gas stoves!

So much for clean water. So why should we continue to fund the EPA? /rhet question
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-02-17 08:18||   2023-02-17 08:18|| Front Page Top

#11 FEMA Denies East Palestine's Request for Federal Assistance
Posted by Skidmark 2023-02-17 08:22||   2023-02-17 08:22|| Front Page Top

#12 The Chinese have just selected Palestine, OH as the site of their first EMP attack.
Posted by Uleash Smith6572 2023-02-17 08:26||   2023-02-17 08:26|| Front Page Top

#13 #5 - Buffett is into Burlington Northern BNSF
Posted by Frank G 2023-02-17 08:26||   2023-02-17 08:26|| Front Page Top

#14 ‘This Is Disgusting’: J.D. Vance Scrapes Creek Bed With Stick After Train Crash, Oily Substance Emerges In Viral Video
Posted by Skidmark 2023-02-17 08:56||   2023-02-17 08:56|| Front Page Top

#15 Making Sense of the Ohio Train Derailment
Posted by Skidmark 2023-02-17 08:58||   2023-02-17 08:58|| Front Page Top

#16 From link at #15 - As it burns, vinyl chloride transforms into phosgene and hydrogen chloride.

Phosgene gas, according to the CDC, is “unlikely to contaminate water because it breaks down rapidly upon contact with water to produce hydrochloric acid and carbon dioxide.” If this is true, the decision to burn the vinyl chloride must have been justified to avoid a much larger water contamination disaster.

Theoretically, the hazmat crews responding to the derailment knew this, and it influenced their decision to burn before the vinyl chloride got in the water.

Sometimes, what looks like a stupid choice is really the lesser of two evils.
Posted by Bobby 2023-02-17 09:19||   2023-02-17 09:19|| Front Page Top

#17 It seems that Norfolk Southern decided to save money by not doing maintenance on the trackside 'hotboxes', the heat detectors:
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-eliminated-key-maintenance-role-in-derailment-region-union-says
Posted by ed in texas 2023-02-17 09:33||   2023-02-17 09:33|| Front Page Top

#18 Wonder what proportion of their budget was saved by dropping this maintenance.
Posted by Richard Aubrey 2023-02-17 09:42||   2023-02-17 09:42|| Front Page Top

#19 With a response team of Biden, Buttigieg and Dewine, a competent response would have been the biggest surprise. Dewine is very susceptible to dumb ideas proposed by advisors. He was the only Republican governor, that I know of, to implement the Cuomo senior center leper colony policy with horrifying results. What is surprising is the silence by Sherrod Brown and the Republican contenders for his seat. This continues to be the JD Vance Show.
Posted by Super Hose 2023-02-17 11:56||   2023-02-17 11:56|| Front Page Top

#20 Ohio went for Trump in 2020 so it's no surprise if Biden has no sympathy for them. Too bad it wasn't Delaware.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2023-02-17 12:09||   2023-02-17 12:09|| Front Page Top

#21 So I looked up the SDS sheets on this stuff. If the tank was damaged, likely so, and it was leaking, they had a real problem on their hands. Lighting a match to it was the best option as this stuff is highly unstable. Fire and explosion just from releasing into the air is likely. This stuff boils at 8 degrees F. Meaning if the tank refrigeration was not working it was in eminent danger of exploding. They had to release it. But if they did not burn it, it would turn to gas. It would go up and when it got below 8F it would turn back to liquid and bond to water in the air, them come down as snow or ice to the ground contaminating the ground during winter. The politics and lack of information aside, that part of it was done as correctly as possible, bad decision vs worse decision scenario.
There were other, less toxic liquids spilled as well. I suspect these are what they are fining sheening the local creek. But it needs to be tested to be certain.
Posted by 49 Pan 2023-02-17 14:11||   2023-02-17 14:11|| Front Page Top

#22 He was the only Republican governor, that I know of, to implement the Cuomo senior center leper colony policy with horrifying results.

Super Hose - Charlie Baker (former MA governor) did this as well, albeit to a lesser degree.
Posted by Raj 2023-02-17 15:58||   2023-02-17 15:58|| Front Page Top

#23 I think there was a train derailment 35 or so yars ago spilling the same stuff. They burned it then as well.
Posted by 49 Pan 2023-02-17 17:12||   2023-02-17 17:12|| Front Page Top

#24 @#13 - Thanks, Frank G.
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-02-17 18:40||   2023-02-17 18:40|| Front Page Top

#25  So I looked up the SDS sheets on this stuff.

Very useful information, 49 Pan. You’re not just pretty face! ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2023-02-17 19:57||   2023-02-17 19:57|| Front Page Top

#26 Trumpheaded to East Palestine next Wednesday
Posted by M. Murcek  2023-02-17 20:11||   2023-02-17 20:11|| Front Page Top

#27 I didn't have to look up the safety data sheet. I worked in a building that makes it. The by-products when burned are phosgene and hydrogen chloride.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2023-02-17 20:14||   2023-02-17 20:14|| Front Page Top

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