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2023-10-10 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Israel Denies Egyptian Intelligence Warned Mossad of Gaza Attack 10 Days Prior

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Posted by Slenter Panda4300 2023-10-10 06:32|| || Front Page|| [21 views ] Top

#1 US officers Bellinger & Martin issued a report in almost exactly predicting how the Pearl Harbor attack would happen. In March 1941. Submitted to high command, which completely ignored it.
Also heard from a distant cousin was an US intelligence office on the front line vs the North Vietnamese just before the Tet Offensive. He found detailed documentation of the upcoming attack on the body of a North Vietnamese officer. He had it translated & summarized. Got a personal appointment with Gen. Westmoreland. Westy glance at it, sneered, waved it away, saying "They can't do that." Failed warnings seem to be the rule more than the exception.

Posted by Gromble Dribble4342 2023-10-10 11:46|| 2023-10-10 11:46|| Front Page Top

#2 Everyone is calling the recent Hamas attack an intelligence failure. I wonder. We have news that Egypt warned Israel, so at a minimum they knew. The Biden Admin was in a hurry to transfer $6B to Iran before this happened. If they knew, which is not out of the question, then they would have wanted to get that transfer done before the attack. Otherwise, it would have become politically untenable. Russia knew and so did Iran. They both helped put this together.

But what about Israel? They are usually on top of things in their own neighborhood. And an attack at this scale would have taken a lot of time and effort to put together. Men, money and equipment moving at a large scale, for months, but Israel didn’t notice? Well, obviously. If Israel knew this was coming, they would have taken action to prevent it. Right? But what if they didn’t?

Imagine you are Netanyahu. Imagine years of political instability, constant claims of corruption, national riots. Much of this funded by liberals in the West who hate your country. You get word that Hamas is planning a large attack. What if you let it happen? Without anything to hold them back Hamas will go too far. Way too far. Hundreds, possibly thousands, will die. Many of them will come from other Western nations. International sentiment will be on your side. Russia can’t do anything to help Hamas. Biden is too weak to stop you. And if you plan it well, the whole thing will be over before the international community can get enough support together to demand the usual ceasefire. In one grand act you have dealt with Gaza and united your country.

Posted by Angstrom 2023-10-10 14:05|| 2023-10-10 14:05|| Front Page Top

#3 #2 If that was the story, it'll come out - and Bibi would know that it'll come out.

You wanna explanation? There was a warning, and political rank ignored it - for two reasons:
(1) There are lots of warning of this type - if Israel responded to each, we'd collapse long ago.
(2) Underestimate of Arabs' stupidity. It's difficult to believe but they were confident that USA will not allow Israel to respond appropriately.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-10 14:36|| 2023-10-10 14:36|| Front Page Top

#4 ^ If that be the case, I hope they've planned it well and can take it up to the outcome they envisioned.

But I don't think that's what happened. I think they were caught napping. I think they've been complacent and got too busy in the nitty gritty of representative democracy to focus on the priorities. And mossad's in too many projects, from pakistain to Hawaii. They just let the ball slip.

Posted by Dron66046 2023-10-10 14:41|| 2023-10-10 14:41|| Front Page Top

#5 #2 makes a lot of sense here. There's no way to put together something this big without it being known. Therefore, it was allowed to go forward because of the desirable second-order effects.

It's the same reason US intelligence knew about 9/11 but did nothing. It was an outstanding excuse to start the wars they were itching to start for years.

And what's this being called? "Israel's 9/11".

Posted by Harcourt Tholuse6841 2023-10-10 14:54|| 2023-10-10 14:54|| Front Page Top

#6 IMO the CIA had at least some knowledge of Hamas' plans. How far it went up the ladder is the question.

Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2023-10-10 22:23|| 2023-10-10 22:23|| Front Page Top

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