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C.I.A. Expanding Terror Battle Under Guise of Charter Flights
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Posted by Steve White 2005-05-31 00:38|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "This article was reported by Scott Shane, Stephen Grey and Margot Williams and written by Mr. Shane" ...... all of whom are now candidates for "near death" experiences, or worse.

Hey, live by the pen (sword) die by the (pen) sword.
Posted by Lone Ranger 2005-05-31 01:22||   2005-05-31 01:22|| Front Page Top

#2 A few 22 shorts at close range to the head will put and end to this kind of treason. Why is it in the "public interest" that this is printed? To cause us to lose the war on terror is the only reason I can think of.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-05-31 01:58||   2005-05-31 01:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Cool, will they float if you accidently drop them off in the ocean?
Posted by Captain America 2005-05-31 02:13||   2005-05-31 02:13|| Front Page Top

#4 Seriously, how is this not treason?
Posted by someone 2005-05-31 02:26||   2005-05-31 02:26|| Front Page Top

#5 Where is the utility in printing this other than to disrupt CIA operations and try to givve the Bush administration a black eye?

This article was simply the NYT axe-grinding against renditions, to try to do more damage to the Bush administration, no matter what the cost is to the nation.


As for the alleged operations: They will relocate, regenerate and reconstitute. All on the taxpayers dime - and all at a large loss of efficiency and functionality until they recover from the expose.

Thank you NYT for screwing the intel community and the taxpayer.

This is right up there with warning Osama we could listen to his sat phone coversations. I guess the big liberal papers never let discretion and the safety of nation get in the way of a splashy headline, their anti-military bias, and political axe-grinding.

NYT editors should be hung, and the reporters jailed, for treason.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-05-31 02:35||   2005-05-31 02:35|| Front Page Top

#6 If the government refuses to act some private citizens who are actually concerned with the public good and the Republic will take matters in hand and send a message these reporters will understand.

Greed, stupidity and perfidy. The new motto of the NYT.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-05-31 03:51||   2005-05-31 03:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Just another reason why I do not read the New York Times... they are a supermarket tabloid with World News Weekly having more credibility. Treasonous? Oh yeah, it is a habitual behaviorism oozing from the top to the bottom... a pervasive stench that for all to shrink from. NYT isn't just doing their job, yellow journalism, titilation and intrigue sells more than trueful reporting. But even that has worsened the in last 5 years at NYT. When they finally do start to report the truth it will be treated with skepticism. When they start to act in a responsible manner regarding the safety of the United States and it's citizens, then perhaps the citizens of the United States may elevate the importance of the NYT above that of used by the homeless for warmth and housebreaking the puppy.
Posted by Sleans Glomolet4123 2005-05-31 07:20||   2005-05-31 07:20|| Front Page Top

#8 Article is probably post-facto and the agency has moved on to another process, org and link. I doubt this does anything disruptive or exposing to danger. The NYT audience is not one that is supportive of the WoT and our actions to begin with - more mutual reinforcement than anything. When I read it in the NYT's then I know that the act must have ended a long time ago and everyone has moved on.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2005-05-31 09:51||   2005-05-31 09:51|| Front Page Top

#9 All the CIA needs to do is to contract out for the establishment for charter airline offices nationwide and abroad, folks who go to work every morning and wait for 'the 'word' to do all the stuff necessary to plan charter flights for the spooks.

All under different names, unincorporated: Nothing more than an office, a phone, a computer, a desk and a chair. The cost could be small, and there is a large pool of talent out there willing to do this just to hose our fifth column media and help the spooks with more dead terrorists. And it would be nearly impossible for traitors like NY Times reporters to track this type of activity.

I'd like to see these reporters' names on a database waiting for the day they travel outside the US.
Posted by badanov">badanov  2005-05-31 10:13||]">[]  2005-05-31 10:13|| Front Page Top

#10 Actually, the Times is behind the curve on this one. I read a similar story in the European version of Newsweek about these charter flights about two months ago, although it didn't focus on the businesses involved.
Posted by Slick Cletle5880 2005-05-31 12:25||   2005-05-31 12:25|| Front Page Top

#11 The print edition has a handy little chart diagramming the relationships among six named individuals and several named companies. You gotta wonder why they didn't just print it in Arabic to save Al-Qaeda the trouble.
Posted by Matt 2005-05-31 13:10||   2005-05-31 13:10|| Front Page Top

#12 The print edition has a handy little chart diagramming the relationships among six named individuals and several named companies. You gotta wonder why they didn't just print it in Arabic to save Al-Qaeda the trouble.

The NY Times keep trying to screw us over and Arabic may well be the only language they will print it in.
Posted by badanov">badanov  2005-05-31 13:17||]">[]  2005-05-31 13:17|| Front Page Top

#13 Is this charter operation the same as the "Ghost Airplanes" that such a fuss was made about some time ago?
Posted by trailing wife 2005-05-31 13:29||   2005-05-31 13:29|| Front Page Top

#14 Arabic? We're there. Big new demographic for us.
Posted by Pinch Sulzberger 2005-05-31 13:30||   2005-05-31 13:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Pinch,

I've been meaning to ask you: Is treason a job requirement at the NYT, or just a voluntary activity?

Posted by Matt 2005-05-31 13:43||   2005-05-31 13:43|| Front Page Top

#16 How is it not treason? I suppose the NYT would point to this:

The resulting controversy has breached the secrecy of the agency's flights in the last two years, as plane-spotting hobbyists, activists and journalists in a dozen countries have tracked the mysterious planes' movements.

IE its already out there anyway. This makes it a tad easier to access (do the activists have websites? Has AQ found those websites?) - saves AQ a bit of googling, and maybe draws a few more dotted lines.

Hell, do you think AQ reads our speculations here? I suspect some of whats on RB would be more valuable than whats in NYT :)
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-05-31 13:51||   2005-05-31 13:51|| Front Page Top

#17 This is a serious violation, but certainly not unprecedented by the NY Slimes. Their demise is not going to be by governmental action, but by dwindling circulation.

Imagine the nerve they have by stating their plan to impose a charge to access their op/ed columnists.
Posted by Captain America 2005-05-31 14:36||   2005-05-31 14:36|| Front Page Top

#18 This old news/treason. If Aero Contractors Ltd. ever was the alleged operation, it has long since morphed:
Posted by Tom 2005-05-31 15:11||   2005-05-31 15:11|| Front Page Top

#19 IE its already out there anyway.

No excuse. Think upon the phrase "loose lips sink ships".

This makes it a tad easier to access (do the activists have websites? Has AQ found those websites?)

ACLU. DU. DNC. Yes, they all have websites, and I'm sure AQ has them all bookmarked.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-05-31 15:22||]">[]  2005-05-31 15:22|| Front Page Top

#20 Yes, they all have websites, and I'm sure AQ has them all bookmarked.

ergo AQ didnt have to look in the NYT for this info.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-05-31 15:50||   2005-05-31 15:50|| Front Page Top

#21 My totally uninformed take on this?

The CIA has moved on to another airline, and did so about 6 months ago. They just told someone who told someone who told these rocket scientists about Aero Contractors.

Now they can get on with what they need to do while all the conspiracy whackos get their jollies by "tracking the CIA agents" getting off of the Aero Contractors planes.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-05-31 15:52||]">[]  2005-05-31 15:52|| Front Page Top

#22 My Number #1 question:

Would they bounce or splat?
Posted by Captain America 2005-05-31 18:10||   2005-05-31 18:10|| Front Page Top

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