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2005-10-30 Europe
Third night of trouble in Paris suburb following teenage deaths
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Posted by .com 2005-10-30 01:47|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "Let us show that despite our grief and our anger we know how to stay dignified," said the Socialist mayor of Clichy-sous-Bois, Claude Dilain.
My ? is what have you to be dignified towards?
My grief and anger comes when it takes more than one bullet to kill you. but that's juat me...btw socialism breeds ineptitude
Posted by SCPatriot 2005-10-30 01:34||   2005-10-30 01:34|| Front Page Top

#2 Okay, they're rioting because two twerps found out Stupidity carries the death penalty? The riots should be crushed with flamethrowers and WP grenades. Clearly the rest haven't learned the lesson yet.
Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2005-10-30 02:24||   2005-10-30 02:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Representatives of the Muslim community at the procession appealed for calm and dignity and the heads of French infidels to right this obvious insult to Muslims



Posted by JerseyMike 2005-10-30 03:10||   2005-10-30 03:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Why do I get the impression that the definition of "dignity" is very different in France? Is this similar to the UK use of "brilliant" - where it is watered down to something akin to spiffy and rather clever -- rather than connoting the superlative, superb, magnificent, or having the touch of genius as used here in the US? Boggle.
Posted by .com 2005-10-30 03:37||   2005-10-30 03:37|| Front Page Top

#5 "...paying homage to the teenagers whose deaths sparked the rioting..."

What an interesting choice of word.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2005-10-30 06:46||   2005-10-30 06:46|| Front Page Top

#6 - About Clichy-sous-Bois, the police union Action Police CFTC evoked "civil war", with "snipers shooting at the police", and asked the government to take its responsabilities and "send in the army", in a letter to interior minister Sarkozy.

- According to a local in an islamophobic(Tm) site, there was a riot, complete with torched cars, in Vaulx-en-Velin Lyon's suburb this saturday night (an another heavily islmamized area). Again, according to official figures, which are willingly underestimated, there are 30 000 torched cars each year (that would be 150 000 for the USA).

- In Argenteuil, where Nicolas Sarkozy was recently chased away by a bottles-throwing mob (they were not that bad, it was mostly plastic ones... but this was the third time he had to scatter when faced by juvies), the mayor has been confronted by group of angry youths because of the Sarkozy visit and his manly declarations about insecurity, and had his car torched in front of him.

- In Ferté-sous-Jouarre (no idea where this is located), the gendarmerie police station was firebombed, with no one hurt.

This is getting some traction in the www, even if again, this is in no way exceptional, but rather the norm of an undeclared french intifada :
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/ ?entry=18047#comments
Posted by anonymous5089 2005-10-30 06:53||   2005-10-30 06:53|| Front Page Top

#7 Vive la 6eme republique!
Posted by Jake-the-Peg 2005-10-30 07:55||   2005-10-30 07:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Possible candidates for the Darwin trophee. Don't you love these self-correcting systems?
Posted by Clavitch Tholuck2849 2005-10-30 09:01||   2005-10-30 09:01|| Front Page Top

#9 We should ask the UN to pass a resolution or something saying that is is just terrible. Then we should have Spain investigate and put the bad police on trial.
Posted by 49 pan 2005-10-30 09:23||   2005-10-30 09:23|| Front Page Top

#10 Just to show I'm not making this up (hat tip Fjordman) :
http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/
derbyshire200409300813.asp
No-go areas
We've been hearing a lot about no-go areas in Iraq. Well, just to put the matter into perspective, here is some data on no-go areas in France. (I'm obliged to Jerry Pournelle for pointing me to this.)

In Le Figaro daily dated Feb 1, 2002, Lucienne Bui Trong, a criminologist working for the French government's Renseignements Generaux (General Intelligence — a mix of FBI and secret service), complains that the survey system she had created for accurately denumbering the Muslim no-go zones was dismantled by the government. She wrote: 'From 106 hot points in 1991, we went to 818 sensitive areas in 1999. That's for the whole country. These data were not politically correct.' Since she comes from a Vietnamese background, Ms. Bui Trong cannot be suspected of racism, of course, otherwise she wouldn't have been able to start this survey in the first place.

The term she uses, 'sensitive area,' is the PC euphemism for these places where anything representing a Western institution (post office truck, firemen, even mail order delivery firms, and of course cops) is routinely ambushed with Molotov cocktails, and where war weapons imported from the Muslim part of Yugoslavia are routinely found.

The number 818 is from 2002. I'd go out on a limb and venture that it hasn't decreased in two years.

Note the French govt's response to these unpleasant statistics — they stopped collecting the statistics!
Posted by anonymous5089 2005-10-30 10:38||   2005-10-30 10:38|| Front Page Top

#11 wow this has been kept quiet- not seen 1 bit of coverage of this on UK t.v - not even on Sky which is normally pretty good, i will ask sky to report on it as they got real excited with the Birmingham 'race riots' here the other day.
Posted by Shep UK 2005-10-30 11:43||   2005-10-30 11:43|| Front Page Top

#12 Coverage lite on MSNBC now. Thisn might evolve. Paris, riots, restaurants, hotels, safe zones. It's a gimme.
Posted by Shipman 2005-10-30 12:39||   2005-10-30 12:39|| Front Page Top

#13 ... they scaled a wall of an electrical relay station while running away from police and fell against a transformer.

Any homage paid by the crowd was redundant. The characteristically Dawinesque demise of these two morons had already been observed by a momentary dimming of lights.

Horreuers! That such disagreeable events should befall a nation which courageously harbored Ayatollah Khomeini. Quel domage.
Posted by Zenster 2005-10-30 13:18||   2005-10-30 13:18|| Front Page Top

#14 
Posted by .com 2005-10-30 15:44||   2005-10-30 15:44|| Front Page Top

#15 love it :-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-10-30 15:50||   2005-10-30 15:50|| Front Page Top

#16 Im a thinkin no sign is better.
Posted by Ulins Uleremble5747 2005-10-30 15:52||   2005-10-30 15:52|| Front Page Top

#17 This reminds me very little of one of the finest examples I've ever seen of "Truth in Advertising".

The sticker was posted on the interior shielding of a gigantic multi-tube PECVD (Plasma Enhanced Chemical Vapor Deposition) reactor. It read:

CAUTION
High Voltage
Death is Final
Posted by Zenster 2005-10-30 16:04||   2005-10-30 16:04|| Front Page Top

#18 For 72 virgins touch here and here simultaneously at the same time.
Posted by gromgoru 2005-10-30 19:32||   2005-10-30 19:32|| Front Page Top

#19 Okay, this paragraph makes no sense:
According to a 21-year-old man who was with the two boys and survived the electrocution, "they ran because other young people were running. They thought they were being chased but they were not," Francois Molins, public prosecutor for the Seine-Saint-Denis district, told a press conference.
So who said what ? I don't think it was Francois who was with the teens at the time.
But, whatever, it's still great news.

Posted by wxjames 2005-10-30 20:17||   2005-10-30 20:17|| Front Page Top

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