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2007-01-26 Iraq

US Troops Now Directed To: "Catch Or Kill Iranian Agents"

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Posted by Anonymoose 2007-01-26 09:24|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Catch and release is something sport fisherman do. When it comes to terrorists, the best policy is the Californian response to "endangered species" on their property, kill quick and bury deep.

Posted by RWV 2007-01-26 09:35|| 2007-01-26 09:35|| Front Page Top

#2 now THIS will make a difference. Combined with the "surge", things should improve. Open season on Iranian agents - I like it

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-01-26 09:37|| 2007-01-26 09:37|| Front Page Top

#3 No issues with Gitmo if they're worm food.
Should have been the situation with Saddam as well, but suits wanted their rituals and have paid with the consequences.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-01-26 09:39|| 2007-01-26 09:39|| Front Page Top

#4 The wide-ranging plan has several influential skeptics in the intelligence community, at the State Department and at the Defense Department who said that they worry it could push the growing conflict between Tehran and Washington into the center of a chaotic Iraq war.

Repeat after me: We are already at war. We have been at war since 1979.

Posted by Sloper Snemble8186 2007-01-26 09:58|| 2007-01-26 09:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Now if they open the policy up to Iranian agents both inside and outside Iraq...

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-01-26 10:00|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-01-26 10:00|| Front Page Top

#6 A senior intelligence officer was more wary of the ambitions of the strategy.

"This has little to do with Iraq. It's all about pushing Iran's buttons. It is purely political," the official said. The official expressed similar views about other new efforts aimed at Iran, suggesting that the United States is escalating toward an unnecessary conflict to shift attention away from Iraq and to blame Iran for the United States' increasing inability to stanch the violence there.

Oh, and find out who this senior intelligence officer is and sack his sorry as$ butt - for making unauthorized comments regarding foreign policy if for nothing else.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-01-26 10:02|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2007-01-26 10:02|| Front Page Top

#7 I caught that part too Sloper S.

Who the hell are these skeptics?

Posted by danking_70 2007-01-26 10:03|| 2007-01-26 10:03|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh, and find out who this senior intelligence officer is and sack his sorry as$ butt - for making unauthorized comments regarding foreign policy if for nothing else.

He'll be the one with the lacy handkerchief.

Posted by eLarson 2007-01-26 10:03|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2007-01-26 10:03|| Front Page Top

#9 I kind of liked the 'catch and release' (with GPS implants) technique.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-01-26 10:13|| 2007-01-26 10:13|| Front Page Top

#10 About. Fucking. Time.

And get rid of the panty waste diplomats while we are at it.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-01-26 10:43|| 2007-01-26 10:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Better late than never.

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-01-26 10:45|| 2007-01-26 10:45|| Front Page Top

#12 Darth, I think the term is 'panty waist', but your way is pretty accurate - they are a waste of panties.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-01-26 10:49|| 2007-01-26 10:49|| Front Page Top

#13 But if Iran responds with escalation, it has the means to put U.S. citizens and national interests at greater risk in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

But, but, but. Anybody got a risk-free way to go?

The wide-ranging plan has several influential skeptics in the intelligence community, at the State Department and at the Defense Department who said that they worry it could push the growing conflict between Tehran and Washington into the center of a chaotic Iraq war.

I'm sure we'll be hearing more from the "skeptics" - this is the Washington Post, after all.

Posted by Bobby 2007-01-26 10:53|| 2007-01-26 10:53|| Front Page Top

#14 lol, Glenmore. I actually feel a LOT better about this "catch and release" program with our military running it. Retinal scans, DNA, Fingerprints, Photographs....all will be used to follow these guys to "their masters" methinks. Almost wonder if some Spec Ops have already done so (with the news that Iran's top nuclear scientist "mysteriously" died last week). Note that this was approved last fall, but only reported now. The MSM at work, once again!

Posted by BA 2007-01-26 10:55|| 2007-01-26 10:55|| Front Page Top

#15 but suits wanted their rituals and have paid with the consequences.
I wish it was them that paid the suits that paid. It's our countrys future leaders that are paying. And I for one want them to do whatever they feel they need to do, when they are getting shot at. Not want the suits think.
I know you think the same way Procopius2k. Damn kids have done everything we have asked and more. Time they get to ask.

Posted by plainslow 2007-01-26 11:24|| 2007-01-26 11:24|| Front Page Top

#16 I vote Kill.

Posted by doc 2007-01-26 11:33|| 2007-01-26 11:33|| Front Page Top

#17 While pleased to some extent, I find this a tremendously depressing item.

Another absolutely baffling failure by people who generally have the right instincts to act sooner, and more vigorously. The failure, that is, to implement even harsher (more "confrontational") responses the instant we knew that Iranian activities were killing/wounding our soldiers (don't know when this was, but I first heard about the smoking-gun EFP/trigger discoveries in the south a long time ago, and certainly long before last fall). No problem with catch-release as part of a concerted effort to unveil their network with the objective of destroying it. Enormous problem with waiting until last fall to get serious.

The "skeptical" official is the other head-shaker. That people this clueless can be stamping passports or doing bland reports on Malaysian finances, much less be "senior officials", should depress and frighten everyone here.

What, we might "provoke" Iran? I get it - criminal regimes that have been at war with us for over two decades and which sponsor global acts of terrorism for that period and which are a key adversary damaging our interests in three central theaters (Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon) best not be "confronted"?

Words fail.

Posted by Verlaine 2007-01-26 12:27|| 2007-01-26 12:27|| Front Page Top

#18 Remember Col. Higgins.

Posted by ed 2007-01-26 12:31|| 2007-01-26 12:31|| Front Page Top

#19 "Secret Aaaa-gent Mullah!
Secret Aaaa-gent Mullah!
They've given you a numbah
and taken away your goat!"

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-01-26 13:20|| 2007-01-26 13:20|| Front Page Top

#20 U.S. forces collected DNA samples from some of the Iranians without their knowledge, subjected others to retina scans, and fingerprinted and photographed all of them before letting them go.

Oh, the humanity! Call the ACLU, HRW, and AI!

I agree with Verlaine. W wasn't going to win any friends in Congress or overseas by being "diplomatic." I think Iran's stealth war should have been exposed early and often. Things have gone so far now that, short of a direct massive attack by Iran, any military action against Iran will be followed by months of Congressional hearings and impeachment efforts. That may have happened anyway, but the American public has been so soured that I doubt even they'll support military action against Iran.

Posted by xbalanke 2007-01-26 13:27|| 2007-01-26 13:27|| Front Page Top

#21 Perhaps this coming to light now might be a way of goading Iran into overstepping.
They don't strike me as being a party whom it would take very much to goad into doing something doing something very...ummm... ill-concieved. Or extremely counter-productive to their ends. Or spectacularly violent.
Or all three.

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2007-01-26 14:12|| www.ncobrief.com]">[www.ncobrief.com] 2007-01-26 14:12|| Front Page Top

#22 "The Bush administration has authorized the U.S. military to kill or capture Iranian operatives inside Iraq as part of an aggressive new strategy to weaken Tehran's influence across the Middle East and compel it to give up its nuclear program"

It does not readily occur to me how this will compel Iran to give up it's nuclear program.

Posted by FeralCat 2007-01-26 14:33|| 2007-01-26 14:33|| Front Page Top

#23 Iranians are never going to give up there nuke ambitions until we take it from them. This is to get the Iranians to do something stupid, so we can pound on them hard.

Posted by djohn66 2007-01-26 14:53|| 2007-01-26 14:53|| Front Page Top

#24 The "skeptical" official is the other head-shaker. That people this clueless can be stamping passports or doing bland reports on Malaysian finances, much less be "senior officials", should depress and frighten everyone here.

Depress and frighten, sure. But it comes as no surprise. In non Defense related government employment, appearance and perception are everything. Knowing all the right people helps too.

The level of incompetence at the management levels in most agencies would take your breath away. Of course, some of you here already know that.

Posted by Chuck Darwin 2007-01-26 14:56|| 2007-01-26 14:56|| Front Page Top

#25 djohn66, I have a mild remonstrance to say: you don't "take" anyone's ambitions "away" from them.

You have to ass-kick people's ambitions out of them.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2007-01-26 14:59|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2007-01-26 14:59|| Front Page Top

#26 I vote kill, this is looonng overdue

Posted by Captain America 2007-01-26 15:43|| 2007-01-26 15:43|| Front Page Top

#27 Bush needs to declare open season on all the "don't do anything, it might make the muzzies mad" idiots in State, Defense, and Justice. That may make more of a difference than what we do in Iraq. If he could do the same, openly or clandestinely, against the MSM, we might even win this damned war.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-01-26 16:31|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-01-26 16:31|| Front Page Top

#28 #1: Catch and release is something sport fisherman do. When it comes to terrorists, the best policy is the Californian response to "endangered species" on their property, kill quick and bury deep.

Also known as shoot, shovel, and shut(up).

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-01-26 17:29|| 2007-01-26 17:29|| Front Page Top

#29 Remember Col. Higgins.

Yes I do.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2007-01-26 17:32|| 2007-01-26 17:32|| Front Page Top

#30 Catch or kill? Why the choice?

Rule #1 - Kill all non-uniformed combatants. (After all, we do want to follow the Geneva Conventions, don't we?)

Rule #2 - When in doubt, see Rule #1.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-01-26 17:34|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2007-01-26 17:34|| Front Page Top

#31 Rule #3 - there's a process for Diplomats - they're officially accredited. If they aren't accredited, see rules #2 and #1 above.

PS: it's not a "Consulate" just because they say so.... see "mosque" and "XXXth Holiest Place In Islam"

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-01-26 19:41|| 2007-01-26 19:41|| Front Page Top

#32 About fucking Time!

But if Iran responds with escalation, it has the means to put U.S. citizens and national interests at greater risk in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

And this is different then how they are operating now how?

Face it we have been at war with Iran for the last 26-odd years. Its about time we stopped fighting it with both hands tied behind out backs, hobbled, and gagged.

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-01-26 20:19|| 2007-01-26 20:19|| Front Page Top

#33 The weirdest & most depressing aspect of this is the phrasing "catch or kill Iranian agents." This implies that the agents have long been known & that the US military has been letting them do their thing. It also implies that news of the harmful activities of these "agents" has been suppressed. ABC TV news tonight did make mention of the Iranian supplied anti-armor weapons, but this was not stressed, nor was it the lead article of the evening news, as it should have been, and a long time ago, too.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-01-26 21:20|| 2007-01-26 21:20|| Front Page Top

#34 I vote for Option #2. And I would add that they only need to 'look Iranian' to qualify.

Posted by USN, ret. 2007-01-26 21:47|| 2007-01-26 21:47|| Front Page Top

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