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2008-08-01 India-Pakistan

Pakistanis Aided Embassy Bombing in Kabul, U.S. Officials Say

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Posted by john frum 2008-08-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 It confirmed some suspicions that I think were widely held, one State Department official with knowledge of Afghanistan issues said of the intercepted communications. It was sort of this aha moment. There was a sense that there was finally direct proof.

Now what?

Posted by 3dc 2008-08-01 00:30|| 2008-08-01 00:30|| Front Page Top

#2 Obviously, the State Department or CIA are not logging on to Rantburg. Ever since Fred founded this site there has been many postings, comments, opeds, articles, analysis that all concluded the ISI was in the tank for the Taliban and AQ. Don't know about you but I am sort of tired of our Government having Epiphany's and AHA moments 7 years later than when we had them.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2008-08-01 04:32|| 2008-08-01 04:32|| Front Page Top

#3 It's not true, because it can't be true.

We won't do that, because we can't do that.

We must be successful, because we can't be unsuccessful.

When at long last will the wheel spin mentality lose its grasp on the public temper? In the first PEW poll after Bush removed sanctions against the Pakistan cess pool, it was reported that only 8% of Pakis supported their generous ally. Why the f%$# didn't that impact on people's brains? Why do people need to evade consideration of Karzai's indulgence of the Euro heroin trade? Why make nothing of the fact that Pakistan was in its death throes on Sept. 11, 2001, and now Waziri, Pashto and Balochi islamofascists possess unparalleled prosperity, due to a perverse and gross negligence that allows US aid to be use to enable the murder of Americans? I swear that common sense has no intellectual currency in this age.

We don't do that, because we don't do that. Great epitaph. Sometimes I think I am watching a replay of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, in Real Time.

I wonder who nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki and charcoaled 200,000 Tokyo civilians in one night. Who are earth would do that?

Fred: please make "Values" one of your kill-words.

Posted by McZoid 2008-08-01 04:47|| 2008-08-01 04:47|| Front Page Top

#4 /Hands McVoid a hanky

Posted by .5MT 2008-08-01 05:54|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-08-01 05:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Now what?

KSA doubles payment to DOS stooges. With the price of oil, they can afford it.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-08-01 06:59|| 2008-08-01 06:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Pre 9/11 ISI and Pak military (and hence, the Pak state) were all in sync, all firmly supportive of the relationship with the Taliban which WAS the government of Afghanistan - if it was inconvenient (for SOME in Pakistan) that the Taliban was in bed with AQ, it was more important that the Talibs kept Afghan out of the hand so NA forces who were allied to India and Russia.

When the WTC fell, Perv made the difficult and dangerous decision to switch sides. It was clear to all that Perv did NOT have the power to purge the ISI - and so we didnt try to force him to, we took what we could get.

This is an aha moment partly cause its now 7 years later, but mainly cause this wasnt just winking at some talibs finding sanctuary in Waziristan after murdering some Afghan police - it was a direct attack on the embassy of India, with direct ISI participation. It raises the stakes, and suggests that with Perv losing power, the ISI is getting out of control.

as for bombing Tokyo, the strategic situation is far different. To begin compare US GDP as a percent of world GDP in 2008 vs , say, 1943. And then we were part of alliance that included the USSR and British empire. Such allies as we have do not command that kind of strength. (of course if these allegations pan out, and we decide to shift decisively to India, they are locally quite strong - are they strong enough to blast through a supply corridor to Afghanistan quickly??? I have my doubts)

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-08-01 09:26|| 2008-08-01 09:26|| Front Page Top

#7 The problem is: like said in the counterinsurgency manual victories, even small and strtegicvally insignificant are crucial for guerrilla/terrorist movement for their propagnda/recruiting/moral value. Withdrwaing from Afganistan will handle Al Quida on a islver platter that victory it definitely needs. As long as Iran is hostile supplying the forces in Afghanistan requires good relations with Pakistan. Of course the long term solution is cause Pakistan to implode, but even that is dangerous as long as we can't supply the forces in Afghanistan through Iran.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-08-01 09:59|| 2008-08-01 09:59|| Front Page Top

#8 McZoid, you need a booster for your muslim rabies innoculation? You're foaming at the mouth there.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-01 13:09|| 2008-08-01 13:09|| Front Page Top

#9 the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

Nah, Roman upper classes were literate, MZ.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-08-01 15:30|| 2008-08-01 15:30|| Front Page Top

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