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2004-11-12 Iraq-Jordan

US helicopter shot down, more detail on the fighting in Mosul

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-11-12 12:58:10 PM|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Aye, send in the Kurds!

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2004-11-12 1:36:30 PM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2004-11-12 1:36:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 the Kurds don't need no steenking ROE

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-12 1:48:05 PM|| 2004-11-12 1:48:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 What's an ROE?

Posted by Jules 187 2004-11-12 1:51:56 PM|| 2004-11-12 1:51:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Iraqi NG troops hold their ground...incompetent police chiefs get canned....good signs.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-11-12 1:52:00 PM|| 2004-11-12 1:52:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 rules of engagement

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-12 1:53:18 PM|| 2004-11-12 1:53:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 basically, restrictions on all-out carnage

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-12 1:53:59 PM|| 2004-11-12 1:53:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 As I understand it ROE lets us abort the jihadis.

Or something like that.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-11-12 3:13:39 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-11-12 3:13:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 what the MSM seems to be missing, and some others as well

1. AFAIK, the Iraqi Police are not trained to stand up to a large scale insurgent assault. Theyre police (and not the best) not soldiers. One hopes that over time as we revett and retrain the IP, they'll be able to reduce crime, and do stuff like look for weapons, IEDs, etc. But even when theyre up to standard I dont think theyre expected to fight conventional battles. And of course theyre not all up to snuff YET.

2. ING is better. I dont think its ONLY Kurdish units being called in, and if it is, they will still have to watch ROE.

3. A rising now in Mosul looks like a desperate move for the insurgency. While it would be a big blow IF they could take control of Mosul, that seems to be most unlikely, and they will lose many of the fighters they managed to smuggle out of Fallujah for a couple of days of headlines. When they could have gone to ground and kept on a steady low level campaign of IED's etc. Either A. They are running low on resources, and realize it or B. Theyre running out of time with the elections coming up and realize it, or C. Theyre not very smart - maybe they lost to many strategist types in Fallujah?

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-11-12 3:18:18 PM|| 2004-11-12 3:18:18 PM|| Front Page Top

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