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Israel ready to strike Iran nuke sites: report
[Al Arabiya Latest] Israel's military is preparing so it could launch major aerial attacks on Iranian nuclear sites if ordered to, a British newspaper said Saturday, as Iran marked its armed forces' day with a parade that appeared more muted than in the past.

"Israel wants to know that if its forces were given the green light, they could strike at Iran in a matter of days, even hours," an unnamed senior defense official told The Times. "They are making preparations on every level for this eventuality. The message to Iran is that the threat is not just words."

Among preparatory steps being taken are the acquisition of three Airborne Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft and regional missions to simulate the attack, the paper said.
Posted by: Fred || 04/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  About time. Iran must be detroyed, burned to the ground, then feed the world with their resources. A few payments for most leaders of the Arab world won't be a bad thing either...
Posted by: Vinegar Snineting1102 || 04/19/2009 3:50 Comments || Top||

#2  ABOUT 87% OF IRAN'S OIL IS LOCATED IN A SINGLE PROVINCE (KHUZESTAN) OPPOSITE KIRKUK,IRAQ.SEIZE THAT WITH TWO ARMORED DIVISIONS AND FOUR INFANTRY DIVISIONS AND YOU HAVE TAKEN IRAN'S WALLET. HIT THEIR SINGLE GASOLINE REFINERY (THEY HAVE ONLY ONE)AND YOU WILL SEE THEIR MILITARY ON FOOT AS SOON AS THEIR STRATEGIC RESERVES RUN OUT WHICH WOULD HAPPEN RATHER QUICKLY.
Send the US Navy in to take the entire length of the Strait of Hormuz and land Marines in Jask and Bandar Abbas and cut the single north/south rail line running from Teheran to Sistan. Bomb every thing that moves, destroy all port facilities and saturate Iran's Capital with Cruise missiles at 3 in the morning while targeting the home addresses of ever Govt.mullah in a bed with momma.
Decapitate as much of their govt in a single hour in the dead of night with no warning as you simultaneously can. Hit them and keep hitting them. Use nukes if you have to, and have them ready. Be willing to do ANYthing to win.

There it is. put up or shut up.

Do you know what even this brief war would cost? Are the American People ready for another war? Does the America public in general strike you as willing to support another war. rougher in its own way, than the Iraq war was? Well, do you?

America isnt led by anyone who looks good in a fight at present, now is it? Does Skinny look like a fighting man? Does he act it? Is he held in high regard by the US military? Does he drop by the military bases and get a resounding ovation as one of the men, the leader of the Nation when the chips are down? Or is he Bart Simpson on a bicycle.?

It is true that the Zagros mountains are behind Khuzestan province and there are only seven roads through the mountains to relieve and support the Province and that the United States would have complete air superiority. We could dominate those mountains and those roads. And the province would fall in days not weeks.

Are the American people ready to rape Iran and is the "loyal" opposition ready to support such a move. Because, Churchmice, once you are in...you ARE in. And you dont wound, you have to kill. There are no halfsies in a war. You are not going to wound Iran and walk AWAY...YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KILL IT. IT WILL GET UP AND IT WILL GET NASTY, AND IT WILL GET WORSE THAT EITHER SIDE IMAGINES. WARS ALWAYS DO.

I dont think President Prissy is going to make such a move. His Party in the White House has a history of showing its tail when things get loud and rough. The American Media are all prances and the American people are not willing to do anything sweatier than a Croissant.

If Israel moves, she will have to reach over and through Iraq and they hate Jews there and havent changed. The US will not assist and indeed probably will be given the order to shoot Israeli planes down . I am sorry but there will BE no war.
Israel is not going to start something they cant finish, and the US has tiny little Democrat balls at present.

have some coffee.
Posted by: ANGLETON9 || 04/19/2009 4:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Very clearly, Iran not only stated their objective to destroy Israel but are hosting, financing and arming Hezbollah’s and others sworn enemy to Israel. It is so unfortunate that most of the Christians in the world continue to believe in the two thousand years old lie that Jews helped in the capture and prosecution of Jesus Christ by the Romans. Forget what happened or not more than two thousands of years ago, recognize the real threat now from the Islamists. Folks, you can not be the dumb bell horrible stupid that will survive. No stupid ever survived too long. Mine and your choice, be wise and help survive or act stupid and be killed by the Islamists. Please, do not trust the so called pundits and experts who have been lying for their own benefits and importance for there is nothing in the history or at the present to suggest that Islamic dominance will leave you alone and they will not rape your wife and daughters every day in front of you.
Posted by: Annon || 04/19/2009 5:02 Comments || Top||

#4  The US will not assist and indeed probably will be given the order to shoot Israeli planes down. I am sorry but there will BE no war.

Can't see that order being obeyed. I expect some very big BOOMS in the not too distant future. Your are correct however, Barry will NOT assist.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/19/2009 7:58 Comments || Top||

#5  One of the biggest strategic questions I see is the decision the Israeli leaders need to make regarding even ASKING the US government for assistance or flyover rights. I'll bet they figure there is a good chance the US State Department will tip off Iran that Isreal is coming.
Posted by: Hellfish || 04/19/2009 9:13 Comments || Top||

#6  I respectfully disagree with Angleton. I believe Isreal can finish ANYTHING it starts. And, to repeat myself ad nauseum, hopefully Isreal will tell Bambi and his minions to go f**k themselves.
Posted by: WolfDog || 04/19/2009 11:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Boesecker: Wolfdog: even brave men lose fights if they are in a bad strategic situation and cut off tactically.

The US can win a war with Iran. Israel cant. If they start one they will come in to a solid concrete sh8tstorm which will probably lead to a very bad conclusion.

The US will then be drawn into the aftermath and Barry will queer them six ways from sunday. The American people will scream like ruptured stoats and run as fast as they can to the ladies room.

Some few senior military men may resign but in Iraq they would and will obey orders if they are given promptly through approved channels. And if the order came down resolutely shoot the Israelis out of the air the US officers would do just that no matter how they felt personally about the matter.

We need to knock Iran off, it would be better for everyone in the world if we did it now when we can do the job IF WE HAD LEADERSHIP AND THE WILL.

WE dont. We do not have a leader and we do not have the will.

Israel is going to opt for a long standoff of Mutually assured destruction. And we are going to have to wait ourselves until we can ditch Bambi before he gets a second term. He doesnt have the makings of a great man. He's a happy happy mouth with just words and he wont have a legacy even as good as Clinton's in the end.

Stay alive,and wait.
Posted by: Angleton9 || 04/19/2009 11:34 Comments || Top||

#8  oh man did anyone see that military parade yesterday? They sure can march pretty, and i think they had Qadafi give them his tailors number too get some sashes and bling bling, it was right up there with a NK parade except they looked a little better fed
Posted by: rabid whitetail || 04/19/2009 12:20 Comments || Top||

#9  The spoiler in the game is that Israel knows that every war is a war it has to win, or be annialated. Israel will stay conventional as long as it's possible to win a war that way, but if it's a matter of surviving or not, the Muddled East will glow a faint blue for the next 1000 years. Israel will NOT hesitate to maintain its survival - they WILL use the 200+ nuke weapons they have, and those weapons will NOT miss. They may not hit Jordan, if Jordan doesn't attack them, but in the end, it'll be "no friends, all enemies", with the results being a totally depopulated Arab world suddenly shifted back 3000 years into the past.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/19/2009 15:00 Comments || Top||

#10  Excellent "spoiler" scenario OP... please make it so!
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/19/2009 15:04 Comments || Top||

#11  Should they take up the task, may G*d give the Israelies a swift and certain victory.

It will be a small price to pay for being left off the Obama Christmas card list.
Posted by: Right_Wing_Extremist_In_Training || 04/19/2009 15:48 Comments || Top||

#12  The Israelis have been preparing the "Samson Option" since the early 1960s - EVERY worthwhile Arab target is accounted for, dialed in, and assigned a priority. The only thing that seems to change for the Israelis is which ME country is on the "Hammer of God" strike list -- meaning NO surviving population centers for that country.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 04/19/2009 19:09 Comments || Top||

#13  Works for me, OP.

I hope Israel survives and thrives.

And her enemies shrivel and burn in HELL.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/19/2009 20:26 Comments || Top||

#14  Israel has left two unfinished jobs lately, in Lebanon and in Gaza.

Whatever they do from now on, they better finish the job

Posted by: European Conservative || 04/19/2009 21:24 Comments || Top||

#15  What Right Wing Conservative in Training, Shieldwolf, and European Conservative said. In spades, and with my prayers.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/19/2009 22:14 Comments || Top||

#16  Oh dear, I am tired. I forgot to add:

A good and useful analysis Angleton9. Thank you. Hence my prayers.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/19/2009 22:16 Comments || Top||


D-Day set for four suspects in Hariri case
[Al Arabiya Latest] A United Nations special court's prosecutor has until April 27 to recommend whether to release four generals held over the 2005 murder of Lebanon's ex-premier Rafiq Hariri, Justice Minister Ibrahim Najjar said Friday.

The Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) judge, Daniel Fransen of Belgium, instructed prosecutor Daniel Bellemare to give his grounds, within the next 10 days, for their release or continued detention, Najjar said.

" After the 27th, the judge... will take a decision and call on the Lebanese authorities either to release the detainees or to hold on to them for the tribunal "
Justice Minister Ibrahim Najjar
"After the 27th, the judge... will take a decision and call on the Lebanese authorities either to release the detainees or to hold on to them for the tribunal," Najjar said.

"Bellemare had asked for 21 days (from April 15) to give a recommendation due to the large number of files and papers which he has received from the Lebanese judiciary," the minister said. "But Fransen has set a shorter deadline."

On April 8 the STL, which began work on March 1 and is based in The Hague, said that Lebanon -- as instructed -- had supplied a list of those detained over Hariri's assassination to the tribunal charged with trying the suspects.

But a Lebanese investigating judge earlier this month lifted arrest warrants against the four generals jailed since 2005 in connection with the murder. However, the judge also ordered that the four remain in jail pending a decision by the STL on their fate.

The generals, who have not been charged, are the former head of the presidential guard, Mustafa Hamdan, security services director Jamil Sayyed, domestic security chief Ali Hajj and military intelligence chief Raymond Azar.

The huge Feb. 14, 2005 bomb blast on the Beirut seafront killed Hariri and 22 others, stirring a political crisis and leading to the withdrawal of Syrian troops in Lebanon after a 29-year presence.

A U.N. investigative commission said there was evidence that Syrian and Lebanese intelligence services were linked to Hariri's killing. Damascus consistently denied any involvement.
Posted by: Fred || 04/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria


Clinton 'Deeply Concerned' About American Journalist Roxana Saberi
It doesn't look like American journalist Roxana Saberi will be heading home any time soon. The Iranians are officially charging Saberi with espionage and she remains detained in Tehran's notorious Evin Prison. Saberi was arrested at the end of January after buying a bottle of wine, and Iran says she was illegally gathering information on expired press credentials.

"This accused has been coming and going to certain government circles under the cover of reporter and without a permit," said Sohrab Heydarifard, the judge in the case. "She has perpetrated actions to compile and gather information and documents and transferred them to American intelligence services."

Tehran's prosecutor claims Saberi, 31, accepted all the charges against her, but other reports say she hasn't even seen them. The exact charges should be announced Saturday, and she could go on trial in Iran's Revolutionary Court as early as next week. All this worries not only Saberi's family, who say they're staying in Iran until she's free, but also Hillary Clinton. The secretary of state -- who also this week said it "makes sense" to start negotiations with Iran on its nuclear capabilities -- called on Tehran once again to release the freelancer. The Swiss government has been working to get information on Saberi's case to the U.S.

"We are deeply concerned by the news that we are hearing," Clinton said after a diplomatic meeting in Washington. "I will, as will the rest of the (State) Department, continue to follow this very closely and we wish for her speedy release and return to her family."
Is that a wish, a heart-felt wish, or a deeply-held wish?

Update: Bambi is 'disappointed' ...
Posted by: Steve White || 04/19/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  former Miss North Dakota (that's good)

She worked extensively for the BBC (world version) which is basically an anti Western agiprop org so I guess the Mullahs thought that was a cover.

She was arrested Jan 31, 2009 which is 4 days after Obama's "we have an open hand to the muslim world" speech.
Posted by: mhw || 04/19/2009 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, who cares?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 04/19/2009 3:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Feckless, duely cititzens of the world. Pick a country, any country. If you pick this one, then bloody STAY here and don't venture back ot the kak you came from. You do so at your own risk.
Posted by: Besoeker || 04/19/2009 8:07 Comments || Top||

#4  I read our local paper that Hillary said: "the United States will vigorously raise our concerns with the Iranian government."

I don't know why Hillary would expect the Iranians to do anything. They have not done anything with regards to ceasing their nuclear program despite pressures. The Israelis may end up taking out their nuclear program. I don't see Roxana Saberi being returned unless there is some bargaining chip to exchange. That is assuming the Iranians are rational--which is a big stretch. I don't get the sense that the BO administration is going to do much.

Posted by: JohnQC || 04/19/2009 13:44 Comments || Top||

#5  "former Miss North Dakota"

She's sooooo screwed. North Dakota voted for McCain.

What, you don't think Bambi keeps score?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/19/2009 13:57 Comments || Top||

#6  This whole concocted story is pure BS! Saberi supposedly holds dual citizenship, and it's bullshit that a spy in Iran would only get 8 years in prison.

She wanted to 'familiarize' herself with her ancestor's culture, fine. She got familiar with that and then some.

Who cares is right.
Posted by: Zorba Craising6734 || 04/19/2009 14:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Who cares is right.

I care, you stupid piece of fecal matter. She is a US citizen, whether she's also an Iranian citizen or not. If the Iranians get away with this, it will mean open season on non-government-employed US citizens all over the world. No one in our current government is going to stand up for them. Watch for similar incidents to take place not only in the Muddled East, but in Latin America and Asia as well (note the NK abduction of two US "journalists" from China as a case in point). At one time, the US would go to war over ONE US citizen being held in a foreign country. Now we won't even go after perps that hold dozens. What a long way we've fallen.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/19/2009 15:07 Comments || Top||

#8  To paraphrase my Grand-dad:

"I'm going to "concern" (or even be "disappointed") in the other, and we'll see which one gets full faster."
Posted by: Right_Wing_Extremist_In_Training || 04/19/2009 15:56 Comments || Top||

#9  note the NK abduction of two US "journalists" from China as a case in point

The Norks can keep them as well and good riddance.
Posted by: Zorba Craising6734 || 04/19/2009 16:20 Comments || Top||

#10  Let's try this again:

#8 To paraphrase my Grand-dad:

"I'm going to "concern" (or even be "disappointed") in one hand, and sh*t in the other, and we'll see which one gets full faster."

Toshiba laptops SUCK!
Posted by: Right_Wing_Extremist_In_Training || 04/19/2009 17:10 Comments || Top||

#11  My Toshiba laptop works just fine, I treat it nicely.

U.S. citizens are not gold watches or free pens, or change to be given out as gifts to other countries, so "they can keep them. If you or someone you love plan on traveling overseas, you should care about the welfare of each and evey American that gets taken hostage, because it withing realm of possiblity it would be someone you know, if nobody puts a stop to this madness.

If you still dont care, I suggest get checked by a health professional to see if you are among the 1 in 25 Americans who are sociopaths.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 04/19/2009 17:20 Comments || Top||

#12  Yeah, sociopaths probably interpret moving to Iran as "traveling overseas", and being tried as a spy as "being taken hostage".

FYI, Ms. Saberi is 31 years old and there's no info to suggest someone forced her into Iran at gun point. You and OldPatriot be sure to buy her book, now, y'hear? I'm sure it'll be full of all kinds of interesting little tidbits.

As for the two in NK, they work for Al Gore, so yeah, I don't really give a shit.
Posted by: Zorba Craising6734 || 04/19/2009 17:57 Comments || Top||

#13  More research

Miss Saberi has also worked extensively for Natl Public Radio.

Not withstanding that her reporting is not generally seen as having a political slant. This may bother the mullahs a lot. She seems to consider herself as a bridge between two worlds which is naive and foolish and may bother the mullahs also.

Maybe the worst thing about her is she is a babe - even with a veil. This may bother the mullahs more than any of the other things.



Posted by: mhw || 04/19/2009 18:13 Comments || Top||

#14  Whatever. Each American that gets bagged into in custody of other countries with no rescue or resolution, is the same as declaring "open season" on Americans more than it already is. You have a passport?
Posted by: GirlThursday || 04/19/2009 18:20 Comments || Top||

#15  Miss Saberi has also worked extensively for Natl Public Radio

Sean Penn was in Iran reporting for the San Francisco Chronicle. Too bad they didn't keep him, as well.
Posted by: Zorba Craising6734 || 04/19/2009 18:22 Comments || Top||

#16  FYI, Ms. Saberi is 31 years old and there's no info to suggest someone forced her into Iran at gun point. You and OldPatriot be sure to buy her book, now, y'hear? I'm sure it'll be full of all kinds of interesting little tidbits.

Amazing that you can breathe and type at the same time.
Posted by: Pappy || 04/19/2009 18:56 Comments || Top||

#17  I've been able to hold my breath in this thread, due to the stench from certain idiots.
Posted by: Zorba Craising6734 || 04/19/2009 19:25 Comments || Top||

#18  That's 'cause you were only #17, Zorba Craising6734. ;-)

1 in 25 Americans who are sociopaths


Wow. I had no idea, GirlThursday. That would explain a boss I had once, though. For the rest of your points, I quite agree. One reason I started reading Rantburg was so that I would know when I needed not worry while Mr. Wife was on a longer-distance business trip.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/19/2009 22:29 Comments || Top||

#19  Of course. The U.S. should be expected to 'rescue' every dumb ass who is stupid enough to travel to a muslim-controlled shithole.

Saberi is a fool who willingly submitted to the authority of an Islamic government and now finds herself in trouble.

::::SHOCK::::: Because THAT'S never happened before!

Personally, I wouldn't be willing to risk one hair on one head of ANY U.S. serviceman to save her sorry ass.

Just my opinion, of course.
Posted by: Zorba Craising6734 || 04/19/2009 23:11 Comments || Top||

#20  Oh, and TW ... Saberi has been in Iran for 6 years. Do you really equate that to a 'longish business trip'??
Posted by: Zorba Craising6734 || 04/19/2009 23:29 Comments || Top||

#21  TW, its late so please excuse the slap-dash writing.

What prompted me to look into learning about sociopaths all started with a work situation, as well. I had a co-worker that just constantly took advantage of caring individuals around him, but didnt care at all, and got away with so very many bad things. It piqued my concern, why was this guy able to get away with so much, and everyone just seemed to be charmed at first, until the crap hit the fan later.

It interfered enough that I skimmed the chilling book The Sociopath Next Door, by Dr. Martha Stout, awhile back.

Dr. Stouts states 3% of the U.S. population are sociopaths. That would add up to 12 million of them in the United States. Other Doctors estimate between One and Four percent, of diagnosed cases, so these are low end.

One of the key characteristics of Sociopathy is someone who is unfettered by empathy or conscience. In fact, many afflicted with knowing a sociopath soon realize the sociopath can fake emotions and are exceptionally charismatic, but at the same time, the emotions are hollow.

In Dr. Stout's book, she warns that we should be on the lookout because "we have an extremely hard time seeing a person who has no conscience, but a person with no conscience can instantly recognize us." p. 90. And hence, we can have problems when they see us as a game piece. In fact, they might even study us to know how to manipulate, which could appear to fall under the category of flattering fawning at first.

This phenomenon is diagnosed in higher numbers among males (3%) and women (1%). Some studies, though inconclusive, rank males from out of wedlock homes with no father present as presenting sociopathy in slightly higher numbers.

As a future Mom, I am re-reading the book so I know what kids nowadays are up against. In my work life, I dont doubt I've had brushes with such people.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 04/19/2009 23:48 Comments || Top||

#22  Ms Saberi was in-country for six years? I didn't know that, Zorba Craising6734. Expat status changes the calculation. I'll have to contemplate a bit to figure out what it is... Normally we would have American embassy staffers keeping an eye on things, but of course we don't have an embassy there.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/19/2009 23:51 Comments || Top||

#23  ZORBA, Well, everyone should just sit by and drink hot cocoa. Sounds like a solution.
Posted by: GirlThursday || 04/19/2009 23:52 Comments || Top||

#24  As a future mother? My heartiest congratulations, GirlThursday!!
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/19/2009 23:59 Comments || Top||



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