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Europe
Germany: Islamists threaten EU, Israel
2006-03-24
Germany's intelligence chief said on Thursday that the success of Germany and other countries in hunting down terrorists has done little to reduce the threat "Islamic terrorism" poses to Europe and Israel.

In a rare public appearance, Ernst Uhrlau, head of Germany's BND foreign intelligence agency, said Europe had been transformed from an Islamist recruitment and financing centre into a target of Islamist extremism.

"In spite of numerous successful hunts for terrorists, the terrorist threat situation has eased only superficially. The bomb attacks in Madrid and London are clear evidence that Europe is no longer just a recruitment and financing area but has become a target of Islamic terrorism," Uhrlau told a conference on Islamic extremism organized by the American Jewish Congress.

"In the foreseeable future international terrorism will remain one of the most serious threats to our society. More than ever before Israel and Europe as a single risk area are caught in the crosshairs of international terrorism," he said.

Unlike the foreign-born members of al Qaeda seen responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States, "the terrorists in Europe are homegrown and homemade," he added.

A Hamburg-based al-Qaeda cell has been blamed for the Sept. 11 attacks. Since then, Germany has cracked down on Muslim militants living in the country and has had a number of high-profile trials of radical Islamists.

Uhrlau also said that both Israel and Europe now faced less of a threat from non-religious militant organizations than from trans-national militant Islamist organizations.

"Terrorist groupings of a secular character and with only a regional sphere of activity have largely been pushed into the background," Uhrlau said. "Only a few of the secular groupings still pose a serious threat."

He did not name any of the groups. The Irish Republican Army (IRA) has essentially disarmed and the Basque separatist group ETA declared a ceasefire earlier this week.

Uhrlau said the recent crisis sparked by a Danish newspaper's decision to publish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad showed there may be irreconcilable differences between Islamic and western cultures.

"The recent controversy over Muhammad cartoons has raised the question of compatibility in principle between basic elements of Western and Muslim standards of culture. In this case, freedom of the press versus religious values.

"The fact is that such antagonism may emerge time and again in sensitive areas of identity on either side," he said.
Posted by:lotp

#15  My grandparents were all Europians. I think they have a kind of group penis envy. We have the 'land of plenty' and they have a serious bug up their ass over it. It's like when your best friend borrows money from you, and then he stops coming around. Weeks become months, and he is nowhere in site. Like, I owe you, so you are making me feel beneath you, subservient, unworthy.
Then there's always the possibility that they don't feel patriotic, because they consider their countries weak and insignificant.
Whatever, get over it.
Posted by: wxjames   2006-03-24 23:14  

#14  Anyone else's comments also welcome.
Posted by: ex-lib   2006-03-24 21:17  

#13  Cultural navigation tips, you two? Thanks.
Posted by: ex-lib   2006-03-24 21:16  

#12  1/2 Dane here, too. Bombay and Zen--does this mean I'm gonna hate London and Sydney? Would like a birdseye view before I get there(s).
Posted by: ex-lib   2006-03-24 21:15  

#11  Jutland it where the Angles, Saxons and Jutes came from. I think this may have something to do with their affinity for America and the way we do things.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-03-24 19:29  

#10  to deny there's a special relationship is ridiculous. Rocky, sometimes, but the US will not let Israel be devoured by autocratic enemies of Jews, western values, and democracy in general. W said so just the other day...people really oughtta learn that he believes exactly what he says.

Lucky it's not up to King Frank: I'm up for a selected assassination program just for the desecration of the Church of the Nativity by Paleo scumbags. Then, the princelings....
Posted by: Frank G   2006-03-24 19:15  

#9  Zen, awesome, then you probably feel what I do ... this almost dread of knowing what is coming and trying to tell them, but they just don't care or think that we (US) are just so childish as not to listen. It is just amazing.

I hope beyone hope that your are correct in this, that they have woken up ... I just have this nagging voice / feeling from knowing them so well that it can't be true ... please I am wrong!
Posted by: bombay   2006-03-24 18:07  

#8  Out today: Dore Gold's defense of the special relationship between the US and Israel.
http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-20.htm

Posted by: Listen to Dogs   2006-03-24 17:51  

#7  Thank you for the insights. I, too, am half European (my mother was born in Copenhagen, Denmark). The Danes tend to have much more sympathetic feelings for the Americans due to our role in WWII, than many other Europeans, so that odd amalgam of resentful ingratitude just didn't show up in family relations.

Woe on Europe and Muslim alike should the continent drowse off once again into its usual inattentive slumber. The "last resort" school of conflict resolution so popular in Europe more often resembles a charnel house than anything else.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-03-24 17:30  

#6  I really hope so too, I really do.

I have a unique perspective on it being technically 1/2 American and 1/2 European, with much family there still ...

I say technically, as I will admit freely that I was born US, live in US, feel US and claim first and foremost that I am US - ALWAYS. My Euro counterparts hate me for it. Oh well, lol.

However, I have also lived in Europe and shortly in Asia, and with contacts I still maintain (having until recently worked for a European company) and have the family there, that they just don't get it.

I really, really, really want to avoid the thoughts I have, but, I just can't ... it is as if I know them too well or something.

The cartoon issue was 'well, america does have a point' but the average Euro still say 'but still, they are that hegmonic evil, so even though what they are saying looks true from example, it is still the yanks and it doesn't matter, peace in our time!'

As in, better fun to hate on us and not deal with the mess than it is to really look at the problem and deal with ... wow, a common problem I have found at EVERY European entity (i.e. company / government) I have had the pleasure of working with.
Posted by: bombay   2006-03-24 16:45  

#5  I understand how you feel, bombay. I really do not want to be so cynical about it, however tempting it is. The cartoons have served a truly noble purpose and I'm hoping that Europe will keep its eyes open this time and not nod back off into complacency as it usually does.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-03-24 16:35  

#4  Zen, I hope you are right, but I fear no. Given the history most of the continent would love to keep head in sand. I don't know, but I don't really think Europe has caught on. I fear in a year or so, cartoons will be forgotten and the big bad US will still be the hegmonic source of all problems. They can't shake it, it is how they are.
Posted by: bombay   2006-03-24 16:26  

#3  Even Blind Man Europe finally gets a BGO (Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious). Once again, good and great thanks to Denmark for publishing the cartoons. They were a much needed clarion call.
Posted by: Zenster   2006-03-24 12:46  

#2  cats out of the bag. I have nothing against Muslims. People are people and I think that Mulsims will be the ones who help us to win this war OF terror. But I do think there is the issue of whether or not we should allow immigrants who come here and refuse to acknowledge or obey our laws and intend to end ideals of religious freedom, tolerance for all individuals and who intend to use demographics and democracy to end the western belief of the separation of church and state.
Posted by: 2b   2006-03-24 10:54  

#1  Risk areas are places hurricanes might make landfall. Things in crosshairs are targets. You a target. Hope you got friends.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2006-03-24 10:51  

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