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| Security flaws confirmed on Flight 327 |
| 2007-05-30 |
| A newly released inspector general report (PDF) backs eyewitness accounts of suspicious behavior by 13 Middle Eastern men on a Northwest Airlines flight in 2004 and reveals several missteps by government officials, including failure to file an incident report until a month after the matter became public. According to the Homeland Security report, the "suspicious passengers," 12 Syrians and their Lebanese-born promoter, were traveling on Flight 327 from Detroit to Los Angeles on expired visas. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services extended the visas one week after the June 29, 2004, incident. The report also says that a background check in the FBI's National Crime Information Center database, which was performed June 18 as part of a visa-extension application, produced "positive hits" for past criminal records or suspicious behavior for eight of the 12 Syrians, who were traveling in the U.S. as a musical group. In addition, the band's promoter was listed in a separate FBI database on case investigations for acting suspiciously aboard a flight months earlier. He was detained a third time in September on a return trip to the U.S. from Istanbul, the details of which were redacted. |
| Posted by:Nimble Spemble |
| #9 Try this: phil_b's link phil_b, this is Fred's html code, only put the URL where the quotes are: Link: |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2007-05-30 22:27 |
| #8 Amen Zenster. Put all the muslims on a "no fly list." Absolutely not! All Muslims in America should be given a free flight back to visit relatives in their native lands. One way. No refusals accepted. It's called "reverse immigration" and the time for it is now. I would cheerfully check off a $100 tax donation box on my 1040 form to make it happen. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-05-30 21:59 |
| #7 Annie Jacobsen has done a terrific job of documenting this and http://www.womenswallstreet.com/columns/column.aspx?aid=1222&p=1. Did that link manually. Hope I didn't mess it up. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2007-05-30 18:29 |
| #6 As a former TSA suitcase dumper, it was more important to management to ensure that all the Ts and Is were dotted rather than public safety. Worst 7 months I ever spent as a gov't employee. it was better in Desert Storm than working for these F-ups. all the management was former FAA types and had from where i stood complete disdain for (retired / separated)military NCOs. |
| Posted by: USN. Ret. 2007-05-30 17:36 |
| #5 Amen Zenster. Put all the muslims on a "no fly list." Screw them. Give them something to whine about. If they don't like it, let them start their own airline and air traffic control system. Another alternative is to just throw them off the plane at altitude. |
| Posted by: Angavirt Borgia5635 2007-05-30 17:24 |
| #4 All top officials in Homeland Security, TSA and FAA should be required to spend over 25% of their time on commercial civilian aviation flights to "spot check" the work being done by field agents. No exceptions, no excuses. Same goes for our legislators. All of them should be required to fly on civilian aviation flights. They can go first-class and bump whomever they want, but they gotta take the same risks as the rest of us. This crap has gone way too far. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-05-30 14:52 |
| #3 Govt Broken Alert [as if you didn't notice already] An air marshal who told The Washington Times that he has been involved personally in terror probes that were ignored by federal security managers, called such behavior typical. "Agency management was not only covering up numerous probes and dry-run encounters from Congress and other federal law-enforcement agencies, it was also hiding these incidents from their own flying air marshals," said P. Jeffrey Black, an air marshal stationed in Las Vegas. sure sounds believable to me. Homeland Security officials initially denied that the complaints and blamed passengers who reported the incident to the press as behaving hysterically. However, the inspector general report shows that air marshals had the group of men under surveillance before they boarded the plane. Yep... it's broke! Homeland Security officials have risen so high in Gubmint because they take to PC training like a duck takes to water, and kept that way due to regularly beatings about the head by Homeland Security Lawyers. "It's unfortunate that the suspects were released from custody, but it's not surprising," said Jeffrey Denning, a former air marshal who quit the agency last month. "The overt behavior of the 13 men on Flight 327 was indicative of a terrorist probe. NO Shiite! It appeared rehearsed, coordinated and planned. It was menacing activity," Mr. Denning said. make that a double.. NO Shiite! nothing to see here folks move along... |
| Posted by: RD 2007-05-30 14:23 |
#2 The evidence of continuing (if not increasing) official misfeasance, malfeasance and nonfeasance continues to mount:ATLANTA (AP) - A man with a rare and dangerous form of tuberculosis ignored doctors' advice and took two trans-Atlantic flights, leading to the first U.S. government-ordered quarantine since 1963, health officials said Tuesday. Why the F#@$*!!? hell wasn't this dude (along with these 13 Middle Eastern men) put on the NO-FLY List? |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-05-30 13:59 |
| #1 a background check in the FBI's National Crime Information Center database, which was performed June 18 as part of a visa-extension application, produced "positive hits" for past criminal records or suspicious behavior for eight of the 12 Syrians, who were traveling in the U.S. as a musical group. In addition, the band's promoter was listed in a separate FBI database on case investigations for acting suspiciously aboard a flight months earlier Yet they got their visas extended instead us making sure to slingshot these sick puppies the hell outta here. "If I were a member of Congress, I'd be asking some hard questions about why such a small percentage of flights have armed pilots or air marshals aboard, while the TSA whistles past the graveyard, asking us to believe none of this is related to terrorism," Mr. Mackett said. More betrayal and incompetence by those who do not have to endure the risks all of us are forced to take because of official malfeasance. |
| Posted by: Zenster 2007-05-30 13:50 |