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-Great Cultural Revolution
Susan Sarandon apologizes for anti-Jewish rant at NYC rally ‐ after she's dropped by top Hollywood talent agency: ‘Terrible mistake'
[NY Post] Oooops. Forgot about consequences and karma being a bitch?
It was one of a number of anti-Israel protests she recently attended, as it’s apparently how she’s been killing time while she waits for her next role. Like Barack Obama at church, she somehow hadn’t noticed all the Jew-hate.
Posted by: Frank G || 12/03/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [28 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  she is 77 yr old

not that many roles still in play in any case
Posted by: lord garth || 12/03/2023 4:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Failing at getting old gracefully. How about an add selling reverse mortgages ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/03/2023 5:26 Comments || Top||

#3 
Susan Sarandon
Ref: I'll say things for attention and kiss A$$ for money.


Ref: Lord Garth roles for a 77 old.
She might be able to pull off a Cougar role in a movie, depending on her Silicone work 😏.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 12/03/2023 6:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Helen Prejean sequel: Deadly Men Walking.
Posted by: Fat Bob Phainter9158 || 12/03/2023 6:43 Comments || Top||

#5  You could do a pretty good dissertation on how so many people who consider themselves "artists," ostensibly devoted to the portrayal of truth and beauty, can be so slavishly devoted to evil and ugliness in their personal lives.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/03/2023 6:47 Comments || Top||

#6  ..because the vast majority are narcissists?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/03/2023 7:22 Comments || Top||

#7  This isn't exactly disproving the "Jewish people control Hollywood" meme.

In fact, it's exactly what you'd expect to happen if that were true.
Posted by: Ulimble Forkbeard2690 || 12/03/2023 10:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Jacket says crazy old woman.

"This is what a teenage girl would wear" except that when Simpsons was popular with teenagers, nobody wore anything like that.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/03/2023 12:48 Comments || Top||

#9  In fact, it's exactly what you'd expect to happen if that were true.

I prefer to live in a society where non-Jews will stand up and say "I Spartacus" and tolerate evil no more.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/03/2023 14:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Thelma or Louise has stacked huge mistakes on each other for decades to the extent that she could fashion a log cabin out of of all the stupid. She needs to take her residuals checks to the bingo hall as the chances of her miraculously being smart from here on out are astronomically against her.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/03/2023 15:28 Comments || Top||

#11  it's exactly what you'd expect to happen if that were true.

It is also exactly what you would expect to happen if normal people stood up and said "That is f**king enough!" Two different movies playing on the exact same screen. The cool thing is you can watch whichever one you like best. Me, I'm with the normies. "Yo soy Espartaco!"
Posted by: SteveS || 12/03/2023 17:44 Comments || Top||

#12  it's exactly what you'd expect to happen if that were true.

Meh. If the Jews were running things, she never would have dared to rear up on her hind legs at an anti-Israel protest, nor even have approached within a block of one lest someone report her presence there, lest she never be seen again.

Jew-haters clearly don’t believe any of the stupidities they spout.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 18:51 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
4th group of immigrants from Palestine arrive in Makhachkala
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
[KavkazUzel] A group of four Palestinians arrived in Dagestan today; they were sent to a temporary accommodation center near Makhachkala.
Once Hamas restarted the war, Egypt must also have closed the border to those who wished to escape.
As the "Caucasian Knot" wrote, on November 21, the Dagestan authorities announced that they were ready to accept up to 200 refugees from Palestine, and 8.2 million rubles
...at about 91 Russian rubles to the dollar, that’s about $90,000, which doesn't sound nearly as generous...
had been allocated for their accommodation. From November 25 to 27, three groups of Palestinians arrived in Makhachkala, more than 140 people in total. IDPs from Palestine will receive refugee status , the government of the republic announced. 

Residents of Palestine who arrived in Dagestan asked to be provided with cellular communications and the Internet, as well as to issue documents. Some of them said that they intend to obtain Russian citizenship. All displaced people are being housed at a recreation center near Makhachkala, government officials said.

This morning, a “small group” of four people who were forced to leave Palestine arrived in Dagestan by train and were met by representatives of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and doctors, the Dagestan government said.

“Currently, they are already in a temporary accommodation center near the city of Makhachkala, where social service employees are working with them,” says a message on the government’s telegram channel.

This is the fourth group of residents of the Gaza Strip who were accepted in Dagestan, the publication notes. “On the instructions of the head of the Republic of Dagestan Sergei Melikov, the necessary conditions for comfortable living have been created for refugees, issues of their further stay in the region are being resolved (in terms of paperwork, education of children, employment, and so on),” the government of the republic reported.

Let us recall that on November 21 it became known that a working group had been created in Chechnya to receive 250 refugees from Palestine, and places had been prepared for them in the children's health camp "Gorny Klyuch" in the village of Avtury, Shalinsky district.

The first group of Palestinians arrived in Chechnya on November 29, it included 51 people - 38 natives of Russia and 13 natives of Palestine. On December 1, the second group of migrants of 116 people arrived in Chechnya . It was decided to place them, like the first group of Palestinians, in a health camp in the village of Avtury.

The reception of immigrants from Palestine was organized in Dagestan and Chechnya on the initiative of the federal authorities, Caucasus experts Akhmet Yarlykapov and Ruslan Kutaev suggested. The decision to accept a small number of Palestinians was made by the authorities of the republics, since it is beneficial to their image and will not hit the budget, objected political scientist Sergei Zhavoronkov.

Also on November 30, a family of eight Palestinian refugees arrived in Kuban and stayed with relatives. In total, since the beginning of the aggravation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, 31 refugees from Palestine have arrived in the Krasnodar region, the regional department of the Ministry of Emergency Situations reported.

Posted by: badanov || 12/03/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [25 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


Cyber
Iranian cyber attack targets Israeli tech used by several US bodies
Something to be aware of if you’re in the cybersecurity biz.
[IsraelTimes] Breaches affect Pennsylvania water authority, other utilities and aquarium using device that manages water processes; hackers’ message says Israeli-made equipment ’a legal target’

A small western Pennsylvania water authority was just one of multiple organizations breached in the United States by Iran-affiliated hackers who targeted a specific industrial control device because it is Israeli-made, US and Israeli authorities say.

"The victims span multiple US states," the FBI, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, known as CISA, as well as Israel’s National Cyber Directorate said in an advisory emailed to The News Agency that Dare Not be Named late Friday.
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Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 2023-12-03 00:54 || Comments || Link || [26 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran Proxies

#1  Just hire Israeli Cybersecurity - or nuke Iran.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 2:03 Comments || Top||

#2  It strikes me that if the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, known as CISA, cannot counter-attack with a vengeance, what good is it?
Posted by: Jerens Black9355 || 12/03/2023 8:11 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
US Muslim leaders pull backing for Biden over Gaza stance
Not so many votes lost, but all that sweet Muslim Brotherhood money. And then there are all the Hamas-loving Democratic Socialists who won’t be voting for the Democratic Party this time round... assuming they are sober enough to remember to vote for real this time, instead of the usual emoting on Twitter or TikTok...
[IsraelTimes] Moslem community leaders from several swing states have pledged to withdraw support for US President Joe The Big Guy Biden
...46th president of the U.S. Former Senator-for-Life from Delaware, an example of the kind of top-notch Washington intellect to be found in the World's Greatest Deliberative Body....
at a conference in suburban bankrupt, increasingly impoverished, reliably Democrat, Detroit
... ruled by Democrats since 1962. A city whose Golden Age included the Purple Gang...
, citing his refusal to call for a ceasefire in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
Democrats in Michigan have warned the White House that Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas
...the well-beloved offspring of the Moslem Brotherhood,...
war could cost him enough support within the Arab American community to sway the outcome of the 2024 presidential election.

Leaders from Michigan, Minnesota, Arizona, Wisconsin, Florida, Georgia, Nevada and Pennsylvania gather behind a lectern Was it armored? that reads "Abandon Biden, ceasefire now" in Dearborn, Michigan, the city with the largest concentration of Arab Americans in the United States.
Good to know.
Biden’s unwillingness to call for a ceasefire has damaged his relationship with the American Moslem community beyond repair, according to Minneapolis-based Jaylani Hussein, who helped organize the conference.

"Families and children are being wiped out with our tax dollars," Hussein says. "What we are witnessing today is the tragedy upon tragedy."

Hussein, who is Moslem, tells The News Agency that Dare Not be Named: "The anger in our community is beyond belief. One of the things that made us even more angry is the fact that most of us actually voted for President Biden."

Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were critical components of the "blue wall" of states that Biden returned to the Democratic column, helping him win the White House in 2020. About 3.45 million Americans identify as Moslem, or 1.1% of the country’s population, and the demographic tends to lean Democratic, according to the Pew Research Center.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 2023-12-03 00:59 || Comments || Link || [34 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  Don't worry, Kamala to the rescue!
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 2:00 Comments || Top||

#2  As long as they're not doing the final vote tabulations, it won't make any difference.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/03/2023 7:21 Comments || Top||

#3  targets! no muslims in US.
Posted by: irish rage boy || 12/03/2023 8:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Ironic that the one thing Biden gets right could be what costs him reelection.
Posted by: Glenmore || 12/03/2023 11:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Ironic that the one thing Biden gets right could be what costs him reelection

They're bluffing. They KNOW that a Republican POTUS will be very bad for them - even if he doesn't go full Geert Wilders.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 12:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Whether they show up or not, they'll still vote for Biden. Just like last time.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/03/2023 15:38 Comments || Top||

#7  It's not the vote that counts. It's who counts the votes. And how many votes they need to harvest.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 12/03/2023 20:36 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
UN Women finally condemns Hamas attacks, sexual violence on October 7
[Jpost]
Posted by: Skidmark || 12/03/2023 02:05 || Comments || Link || [19 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


#2  UN Palestine exhibition contains 'grotesque blood libels'
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 2:23 Comments || Top||


Iraq
US Department of State: Iraq still one of the ''safe havens'' for terrorism
[Shafaq News] The annual report of the US Department of State on terrorism revealed that Iraq continues to be classified as one of the "safe havens" for bully boy organizations. It accused Iran
...a theocratic Shiite state divided among the Medes, the Persians, and the (Arab) Elamites. Formerly a fairly civilized nation ruled by a Shah, it became a victim of Islamic revolution in 1979. The nation is today noted for spontaneously taking over other countries' embassies, maintaining whorehouses run by clergymen, involvement in international drug trafficking, and financing sock puppet militias to extend the regime's influence. The word Iran is a cognate form of Aryan. The abbreviation IRGC is the same idea as Stürmabteilung (or SA). The term Supreme Guide is a the modern version form of either Duce or Führer or maybe both. They hate Jews Zionists Jews. Their economy is based on the production of oil and vitriol...
of continuing to support "terrorist" activities in Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries.

The report stated that "Washington and its allies successfully continued their efforts against terrorist organizations in 2022. The Global Coalition, led by the United States, gathered more than $440 million in commitments for stabilization efforts. Meanwhile,
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Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 2023-12-03 01:41 || Comments || Link || [23 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

#1  Hip, hip, hurray for Nation Building!
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 2:24 Comments || Top||

#2  The US spent 100's of $$$ Billions and many US Lives freeing IRAQ from Saddam Hussein. An this is the results of what that freedom and democracy achieved in the Arab world.

If so, then spending a few $$ million bribing Arab dictators to behave, seems to be cheaper and results less lives lost.

R.I.P. Sgt Hurley (SFOD-D KIA Feb 21, 1991)
Posted by: NN2N1 || 12/03/2023 6:16 Comments || Top||

#3  A Boosh/Cheney™ Production
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/03/2023 6:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Nothing in Kuwait, Iraq or Afghanistan is worth a bucket of warm camel pi**. Never been to Somalia or Syria. Probably much the same. Just a wild guess.

Stay the fok out of it and stay at home. Anything going on over there will sort itself out on it's on accord.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/03/2023 6:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Wonder if we had gone full Mongol in Afghanistan if any of this would still be going on today.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/03/2023 7:20 Comments || Top||

#6  /\ I've had the same thought. Wrong people running things P2k. 'Rhino and Spider' on the other side of the FOB, would never have approved.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/03/2023 7:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Boy, Saddam sure kept this under control when he was in charge, eh?

Quick show of hands: anyone still believe the lie that Saddam was going to give WMD to Islamists? That lie is so old it can drink at a bar now.
Posted by: Vortigern Phert8938 || 12/03/2023 8:13 Comments || Top||

#8  ...remember all the panic when ISIS overran the place still holding chem weapons.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/03/2023 9:35 Comments || Top||

#9  t Iraq continues to be classified as one of the "safe havens" for bully boy organization

And why is that, hmmmmm? That classification worth a few $$ to the right fokkers huh?
Posted by: AlanC || 12/03/2023 17:31 Comments || Top||

#10  And here I thought the US State Department was a safe haven for terrorists.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/03/2023 17:34 Comments || Top||

#11  anyone still believe the lie that Saddam was going to give WMD to Islamists?

They’d already used chemical weapons on the Kurds — remember the yellow rain that dropped entire villages in their tracks? Why give the Islamists the things when the advanced class at Salman Pak was taught to make their own? Al Qaeda was experimenting on dogs using prototype chemical and biological weapons, including on the puppy belonging to one of Osama bin Laden’s sons.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 19:10 Comments || Top||


Iraq warns US against ‘attacks’ after strikes against Iran-backed groups
[IsraelTimes] Iraq’s prime minister warns Washington against any "attack" on Iraqi territory after a resumption of fighting in the Israel-Hamas
...the braying voice of Islamic Resistance®,...
war renewed concerns of a wider conflict.

Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudan
...a Moslem country located in the Horn of Africa. It is noted for its affinity for rule by ex- or current generals, its holy men, and for the oppression of the native Afro population by its Arab conquerors. South Sudan, populated mostly by the natives, split off from Sudan proper, which left North and South Darfur to be oppressed by the guys with turbans...
i makes the comment during a phone call made to him by United States Secretary of State Antony Blinken
...71st United States secretary of state and a leading light of the corrupt and inept Biden administration. He previously served as deputy national security advisor from 2013 to 2015 and deputy secretary of state from 2015 to 2017 under the corrupt and inept Obama administration. He advocated for the 2003 invasion of Iraq while serving as the Democratic staff director of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee from 2002 to 2008. He was a foreign policy advisor for the Biden 2008 presidential campaign. During his tenure in the Obama administration, Blinken helped craft B.O.'s policy on Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the nuclear program of Iran. We all saw how well each of those worked. After leaving government service, Blinken moved into the private sector, co-founding WestExec Advisors, a lobbying firm...
, Sudani’s office says.

On November 22, US fighter jets struck two targets in Iraq, killing nine pro-Iran
...a theocratic Shiite state divided among the Medes, the Persians, and the (Arab) Elamites. Formerly a fairly civilized nation ruled by a Shah, it became a victim of Islamic revolution in 1979. The nation is today noted for spontaneously taking over other countries' embassies, maintaining whorehouses run by clergymen, involvement in international drug trafficking, and financing sock puppet militias to extend the regime's influence. The word Iran is a cognate form of Aryan. The abbreviation IRGC is the same idea as Stürmabteilung (or SA). The term Supreme Guide is a the modern version form of either Duce or Führer or maybe both. They hate Jews Zionists Jews. Their economy is based on the production of oil and vitriol...
fighters in retaliation for repeated attacks on American troops, US and Iraqi sources said.

Hours earlier, a warplane struck the vehicle of Iran-backed fighters after they had fired a short-range ballistic missile at US and allied personnel, according to the Pentagon.

The strikes came after US forces deployed in Iraq and Syria were attacked at least 74 times, according to Pentagon officials, a surge linked to the war between Israel and Hamas.

During his call with Blinken, Sudani rejected "any attack on Iraqi territory," the statement from his office says.

Sudani also said the Iraqi government is committed "to ensuring the safety of the international coalition advisers present in Iraq."

The US strikes targeted positions of the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilization), a coalition of former paramilitary forces integrated into the Iraqi regular military.

Washington’s strikes killed nine fighters, according to tolls by the Hezbollah Brigades, an important faction within the Hashed al-Shaabi.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran Proxies


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Netanyahu: PA and Hamas both reject Israel’s existence; I won’t let PA govern Gaza
[IsraelTimes] Answering a few final questions at his presser, Prime Minister Netanyahu unleashes a devastating critique of the Paleostinian Authority and the process that led to its establishment.

He is asked about the PA’s potential role in a post-war Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
, as sought by the US and opposed by him.

The Paleostinian Authority "pays murderers.... They educate their children to hate Israel and, to my sorrow, to murder Jews, and ultimately for the disappearance of the State of Israel," he says.

He says PA President Mahmoud "Abbas still hasn’t apologized" for the October 7 onslaught. (He apparently meant to say that Abbas hasn’t condemned the assault.) And he says that senior PA official Jibril Rajoub has said "the same should be done in Judea and Samaria from Judea and Samaria."

"I’m not prepared to delude myself and say that this defective thing, established under the Oslo Accords in a terrible mistake," should be allowed to govern Gaza. "It was a terrible mistake to return the most hostile thing in the Arab world and the Paleostinian world into the center of the Land of Israel, the heart of the land," he says.

Apparently referring to Fatah and Hamas
...the well-beloved offspring of the Moslem Brotherhood,...
, he says it then "split into two, but the ideology, to my sorrow, that rejects the existence of Israel is common to both those factions. So I won’t repeat the mistake and put that entity into Gaza, because we’ll get the same thing."

He adds: "We would be putting the same element — utterly unreformed, utterly unchanged — into Gaza, and that’s what even the best of our friends suggest. I think differently. I oppose it. I think we need to build something else. Of course, [there must be] Israeli security control in the whole area... to ensure no rise of a terror entity for years to come. And the internal governance must undergo a totally different process.

"The PA has failed in this — it doesn’t fight terror, it finances terror; it doesn’t educate for peace, it educates for the disappearance of the State of Israel. That is not the group that should enter now," he says.

Asked how he will keep Paleostinian civilians safe in the now hugely crowded south of the Gaza Strip, he says Israel is coordinating with the US and that Israel "wants to avoid harm to the civilian populace."

When it is put to him that some critics say he strengthened Hamas over the years, he responds: "It’s a lie." Under his leadership, he says, Hamas was hit in four rounds of conflict. "We killed thousands of terrorists."

At the same time, his and other governments rightly sought to prevent a humanitarian collapse in Gaza. That’s why money was allowed to flow into Gaza.

"We have to finish the job" against Hamas, he says.

Previously, "we didn’t have either the internal national consensus or the international consensus" to destroy Hamas. Now, the internal support is very strong, he says, and he is working to preserve international support. "Now, we will finish the job."

From the same Q & A: Netanyahu says Hamas refusing to let Red Cross visit hostages

Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 2023-12-03 00:54 || Comments || Link || [18 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority


Legal proceedings still pending against 13 Arab Israeli women released in Hamas deal
An odd little tale.
[IsraelTimes] Women were arrested for social media posts allegedly supporting terrorism; at least 5 objected to being freed in exchange for hostages held in Gaza

Legal proceedings against 13 Arab Israeli women who were released from prison under the terms of the hostage release deal with Hamas
...a regional Iranian catspaw,...
are still pending, the Adalah legal aid organization has said.

It remained unclear whether justice officials intend to move forward with prosecuting the women or whether proceedings would be dropped.

At least five of these women had explicitly requested not to be included on the list of those freed under the deal, and said neither they nor their legal representatives had been informed that this would happen.

All 13 women in question were arrested after Hamas’s October 7 atrocities for comments they posted on social media that allegedly violated laws against incitement to violence and supporting or identifying with a terrorist organization.
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Some of the women have not been indicted yet, and none have actually been put on trial yet, although court proceedings are underway for several of them.

Adalah said the fact they were released without their consent or the ability to clear their names in court, and that upon their release the attorney general had not declared their innocence or immediately dismissed their indictments, constituted "a severe violation of their presumption of innocence, absurdly marks them as ’terrorists,’ and may significantly stain their future."

The Justice Ministry refused to comment on the issue.

The State Attorney’s Office has indicted more than 80 Arab Israeli citizens since October 7 on charges of incitement to terrorism, or identifying with or supporting a terrorist organization, for social media comments they’ve made.

Overnight on Tuesday, 50 Arab Israeli citizens, women and minors, were added to the list of potential candidates for release from prison within the framework of the hostage release agreement with Hamas, 16 of whom had been arrested for social media posts after October 7.

Some organizations, including Adalah, have alleged that many of these allegations were based on comments that are protected under freedom of expression laws, and that the arrests are politically motivated.

At least five of the women opposed being placed on the list of those eligible for release under the deal with Hamas, and either appealed to district courts against the decision or wrote letters to the State Attorney’s Office or the Attorney General’s Office protesting the step.

In those communications, attorneys for the women also demanded urgent clarifications regarding the legal ramifications of their release, including whether criminal proceedings against them would remain pending, whether they would face re-arrest, or whether the charges had been or would be dismissed.

The lawyers and their clients are yet to receive responses, and the legal situation regarding their criminal status remains uncertain.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [15 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


The latest anti-Bibi efforts by the “loyal” opposition
Returned captives, hostage families demand meeting with Netanyahu as truce ends

[IsraelTimes] Families of the hostages held in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
, including several of those freed in recent days, are demanding to meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

A statement from the forum for the families says they want the meeting "tonight" after a week-long truce aimed at getting hostages back ended due to Hamas
...a contraction of the Arabic words for "frothing at the mouth",...
violations and Israel announced it was pulling out of talks.
Selfish demands for attention snipped because, really, there is a war going on.
Over the week-long truce, 105 civilians were released from Hamas captivity in Gaza: 81 Israelis, 23 Thai nationals and one Filipino.

Several of those freed have husbands and fathers still held in Gaza.

Still held hostage by Gaza terror groups when the truce collapsed were 136 people — 114 men, 20 women and two children. Ten of the hostages are 75 and older. The vast majority of the hostages, 125, are Israeli. Eleven are foreign nationals, including eight from Thailand.

Olmert: World will soon halt the war if gov’t doesn’t say what it intends for post-Hamas Gaza

[IsraelTimes] Former prime minister Ehud Olmert warns that if the Israeli government continues to refuse to tell the world what it envisages for Gaza in “the next stage,” after Hamas, it won’t be given time by the US and the international community to complete “this stage,” destroying Hamas.

The bluster and boasting of the current political leadership, “claiming that we have as much time as we need — months, till March, next year — is unfounded,” Olmert tells Channel 12. “We have very limited time.”

What could give Israel “some time and patience from the international community are, first, to make clear that “at end of the military operation, when Hamas is defeated,” Israel will withdraw from Gaza: “We have no option to stay and no interest in doing so.” And second, to present Israel’s “picture” of Gaza post-war, as the US and international community have been repeatedly pressing Israel to do.

Says Olmert, “There is no chance that any Arab soldier or Palestinian will enter Gaza at Israel’s direction. There is no avoiding the entry of foreign forces — from Europe, from NATO countries, although not a NATO force,” he says.

“Do we want to negotiate with the Palestinians or not?” asks Olmert, who was prime minister from 2006 to 2009 and later went to jail for accepting bribes and obstruction of justice. “If we don’t say we are ready to negotiate,” and that means on a two-state solution, Israel will lose the patience and support of the international community, he warns.

Olmert also calls for Netanyahu to quit, saying that “every minute that Netanyahu stays is damage to Israel.” He says he is not calling for a whole new government, but that Israel right now needs “a leadership with courage, integrity [and a sense of] moral obligation.”

Olmert concludes the interview by saying that one of the General Reconnaissance Unit (Sayeret Matkal) commandos who saved then Sgt. Netanyahu from drowning [in the Suez Canal] in 1969, Eitan Ziv, was murdered by Hamas terrorists [Hebrew link] along with his wife on October 7 [at Kibbutz Kfar Aza]. He claims Netanyahu has not even called the family to express condolences.

Large crowds gather in Tel Aviv for rally to be addressed by several freed hostages

[IsraelTimes] Large crowds of people are gathering in Hostages Square in Tel Aviv for a rally calling for the release of the remaining hostages held by Hamas and other terror groups in the Gaza Strip.

Several of the hostages freed during the week-long truce that collapsed on Friday are set to speak in person, and others are to address the crowd via video.

Channel 12 estimates that tens of thousands of people are present.

6 people said detained in protest outside Netanyahu’s home

[IsraelTimes] Six people were detained by police while demonstrating outside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s home in the coastal town of Caesarea, protest organizers said.

The protesters are calling on Netanyahu to resign following the failures that led to the October 7 Hamas
...not a terrorist organization, even though it kidnaps people, holds hostages, and tries to negotiate by executing them,...
assault on southern Israel.

Video from the scene showed several demonstrators standing on sand dunes overlooking his home, calling out to him with a megaphone, before being confronted by police. Police tell them they did not have permission to demonstrate at the site.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [32 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Former prime minister and convicted felon Ehud Olmert
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  What does Ehud Olmert have against Bibi Netanyahu? They both started in Likud and are creatures of the sensible right, they’ve both endured lawfare from the crazed left... he ought to be supportive at this moment, not joining in the grand pile-on.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 0:32 Comments || Top||

#3  ^Personal ambition & blaming others for his failures.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 1:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Incidentally, an observation made by a friend a few days ago "All these IAF pilots who swore they won't serve unless, Bibi resigns - are now blowing up Gaza buildings."
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 12/03/2023 11:00 Comments || Top||

#5  "All these IAF pilots who swore they won't serve unless, Bibi resigns

I notice that there are only tens of thousands protesting now instead of 200,000. So it’s not just pilots.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/03/2023 19:35 Comments || Top||



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