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Africa North
Judge denies actress' bid to remove anti-Islam film
Think! Think! Think! Huuu, three astronauts land on a mysterious planet and are taken prisoner. I've got it! I've got it! She played Dr. Zira!
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What's next? Hitler's estate sues for all those Downfall parodies?
Posted by: SteveS || 09/21/2012 1:06 Comments || Top||

#2  I understood that "adult film" actors and actresses were hired? Surely dubbed words were not the worst thing placed in her mouth for film excellence and "the mood"?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/21/2012 20:06 Comments || Top||


Egypt Islamists to refrain from protesting French Prophet cartoons
French and German diplomatic missions in Egypt will be shut on Friday as a precaution against any violent protests that may occur against a recent film and cartoons mocking Prophet Mohamed.
French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday published a series of cartoons denigrating Islam's prophet, prompting the French foreign ministry to close its diplomatic missions in 20 countries in anticipation of angry public responses.

The German embassy in Cairo is also taking precautions following a national debate
... an expenditure of personal wind at the national level that leads to face-making and other histrionics but can't be shown to have ever solved an issue ...
in Germany on whether to allow public screenings of the now-infamous short film 'The Innocence of Moslems.'

The film, deemed highly offensive to Moslems, prompted strong reactions against the US -- where the film was produced -- across the Middle East, including the killing of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff.

Germany's far-right Pro-Deutschland movement, which has previously staged a series of anti-Islam rallies, has insisted on screening the film, sparking debate among Germany's brass hats on whether to ban it or not.

According to German news agency DPA, Germany's foreign ministry has decided to close its Middle East embassies on Friday, saying that its diplomats had been instructed to stay home that day.

In an apparent reaction to perceived Western hatred of Islam, Germany's embassy in Sudan was set ablaze earlier this week by anti-film protesters. Sudanese demonstrators also converged on the nearby British embassy.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring


Tunisia Braces for Protests Over French Cartoons
[VOA News] A week after Mohammedans worldwide vented their anger at an anti-Islam film made in the United States, authorities in Tunisia are bracing for more unrest this Friday - this time because of French cartoons making fun of the Mohammedan Prophet Muhammad.

Right now it's a typical weekday afternoon in downtown Tunis. The main Habib Bourguiba Avenue is choked with traffic and pedestrians. One thing that is different, however, are the barbed wire and police flanking La Belle France's elegant embassy.

The extra security comes ahead of Friday prayers - and a day after a French magazine published cartoons mocking the Mohammedan Prophet Muhammad.

Tunisian authorities clearly don't want a repeat of last Friday, when violent demonstrations by Salafists
...Salafists are ostentatiously devout Moslems who figure the ostentation of their piety gives them the right to tell others how to do it and to kill those who don't listen to them...
outside the U.S. embassy here killed four Tunisians and injured dozens of others.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring


Salafi-Jihadi Holy Man Issues Fatwa Sanctioning Killing Of U.S. Ambassadors
[MEMRI] Following the September 11, 2012 killing of U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens, a number of queries were sent in to the Salafi-jihadi website Minbar Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad (MTJ) regarding the legitimacy of this action. Answering on behalf of the website's shari'a committee, Sheikh Abu Mundhir Al-Shinqiti issued a fatwa in which he approved of the killing of the U.S. ambassador and other U.S. diplomats, and refuted religious arguments raised by some Islamic scholars against such actions.

It should be noted that over the past two years, religious queries on MTJ have been fielded almost solely by Al-Shinqiti through various fatwas, despite the fact that the shari'a committee has numerous other members. This may be explained by the longstanding imprisonment in Jordan of MTJ founder and prominent jihadi holy man Sheikh Abu Muhammad Al-Maqdisi.

Those who submitted the questions raised two main points: first, whether a person should be killed for an act he himself did not commit or approve (hinting at the fact that the ambassador had nothing to do with the anti-Islamic film "Innocence of Mohammedans"); and second, whether an ambassador can be considered an "courier" under Islamic law, and thus be granted immunity. In addition, Al-Shinqiti was asked for advice regarding the proper response to recent events.
This article starring:
Abu Muhammad Al-Maqdisi
Abu Mundhir Al-ShinqitiSalafi Jihad
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Salafia Jihadiya

#1  One hopes that some drone is targeting this mook.
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/21/2012 1:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Time to gently urge Israel to step aside, NOT SAY A SINGLE WORD, and destroy the lot. Call it day, and tell any beturbaned goon survivors to kiss our collective ass!

This all followed again by NOT SAYING A WORD, and weapons cleaning....until the next time.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/21/2012 7:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Act of war. The Salafi-Jihadi website should be shut down and anyone belonging to it should be arrested or killed until the fatwa is recinded and a public apology (in English and Arabic) is made.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/21/2012 14:42 Comments || Top||


Egypt to produce documentary film on Prophet Mohamed
Yawn.
[Al Ahram] In response to the recent crises sparked in the region by the now-notorious anti-Islam short film, Information Minister Salah Abdel-Maksoud and film director Shoukry Abu Amira, vice president of the Egyptian Radio and Television Union (ERTU), have agreed to produce a major documentary film on the life of Prophet Mohamed. The film -- to be entitled 'Mohamed: Messenger of God, Gift of Mercy' -- will be directed by Egypt's Samiha El-Ghonemy, one of the Arab world's most prominent documentary filmmakers. El-Ghonemy has directed religious-themed films in the past, including 'The Holy Family's Journey in Egypt.'

A handful of scholars from Egypt's Al-Azhar are already reportedly working on a screenplay for the film, which will be jointly produced by the Egyptian Cinema Syndicate and the ERTU.

Members of the syndicate are also reportedly mulling production of a feature film portraying the life of the Prophet.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring

#1  The little clips of the infamous Youtube I saw- presumably selected to demonstrate how offensive the film was - seemed reasonably accurate and almost like a very bad documentary - the kind of thing the class smart-a** would have made for a high school project.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/21/2012 8:33 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudis protest anti-Islam film in a civilized way
Saudis also behead and chop off hands and feet in a civilized way
As angry demonstrators stormed US and European embassies in many countries in protest at a movie denigrating the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), a large number of young Saudis began raising awareness about the Prophet through various campaigns on social networking sites.

Recently social media has been abuzz with Muslims speaking out against the violence and they took the initiative to portray the correct image of the Prophet.

Twenty-three-year-old student Maher Naji said: “The way we shall respond is not by violence, threats, or insults. No, we shall respond with wisdom and social media is our tool to spread the message.”

Maher and his friends here in Jeddah started to think of a civilized way to respond to those who had the wrong impression of the Prophet. He said: “The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself stated the strong Muslim was the one who could control his anger and control his emotions. Therefore all Muslims should follow this example.

“That’s what we are doing right now. We have a very informative site that shows who the Prophet was, so other Westerners can find out everything about him.”

Abdulaziz Al-Jihani, a 24-year-old student, said: “Setting places on fire and killing innocent people does not do anything to defend the Prophet, but increases the hate toward Muslims.”
Posted by: tipper || 09/21/2012 13:55 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  All their jihadis are abroad
Posted by: Fester Clunter7205 || 09/21/2012 14:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Too lazy to stage a proper riot.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/21/2012 15:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Indeed. Happens with fourth generation money and inbreeding.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/21/2012 18:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Too lazy to stage a proper riot

Why bother, when you can pay a bunch of Egyptians and Pakistanis to do it for you?
Posted by: Pappy || 09/21/2012 21:23 Comments || Top||


Yemen Tightens Security At Embassies
[Yemen Post] Yemen has tightened security around foreign embassies and organizations in the capital Sanaa as a precaution to face expected attacks, almost a week after mobs stormed the US embassy to protest a film offending the Prophet Muhammad.

The interior ministry said on Thursday it has increased the number of guards and patrols at all foreign embassies and agencies and urged the security systems to stay on high alert to prevent security breaches at them.

Separately, the Military Prosecution will start next Saturday investigations of tens of soldiers and civilians who raided the defense ministry in downtown Sanaa last month, the September 26 website reported Thursday.

"The Military Prosecution has already received those involved in the attack and their tools to investigate them as a prelude to refer them to the court," the website quoted a well-informed source as saying.

83 soldiers and 8 civilians were tossed in the clink
Drop the rod and step away witcher hands up!
in connection with the attack on the ministry, it said, adding that 25 officers and soldiers involved in the attack are still on the lam and three of the civilians were released on bail.

This year, coppers also stormed and looted the interior ministry's HQ exploiting fragile security at a time when Yemen is implementing a power-transfer deal that was reached after the 2011 unrest.

Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring


Al-Qaeda militants re-organize themselves in Abyan
[Yemen Post] Security chief of Al-Mahafad district of Abyan
...a governorate of Yemen. The region was a base to the Aden-Abyan Islamic Army terrorist group until it dropped the name and joined al-Qaeda. Its capital is Zinjibar. In March 2011, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula declared the governate an Islamic Emirate after seizing control of the region. The New York Times fastidiously reported that those in control, while Islamic hard boyz, are not in fact al-Qaeda, but something else that looks, tastes, smells, and acts the same. Yemeni government forces launched an effort to re-establish control of the region when President-for-Life Saleh was tossed and the carnage continues...
, Yaslim al-Anbori, has revealed that numbers of al-Qaeda Orcs and similar vermin are flowing to the east of al-Mahfad.

He told the Kuwaiti Alsyasia newspaper as saying that the number of Orcs and similar vermin is about 400, asserting that Al-Mahfad turns to a connection point between Orcs and similar vermin from Abyan, Hadhramout, Shabwah, Marib.

According to al-Anbori, he had confirmed information that jacket wallahs headed to Sana'a, Aden and other cities to carry out sucicide bombings using cycle of violences .

He affirmed that Saudis and Paks are among the Death Eaters, indicating that they are helping the Orcs and similar vermin in making bombs and boom belts and anticipating that Baihan district of Shabwah may be controlled by Al-Qaeda.

He said that Al-Qaeda Orcs and similar vermin kidnapped a Syrian and Turkish last week, and transferred them to a remote area with the aim of pressing on the Yemeni authorities to release an al-Qaeda leader, Nasser Al-Shaibah, held by the Yemeni authorities since three years.

He revealed that contacts about the Saudi diplomats kidnapped by Al-Qaeda in Yemen were totally suspended, emphasizing that there are no information about his place.

Al-Qaeda Orcs and similar vermin received painful blows as the Yemeni army cleansed them from their main strongholds in Abyan and they resorted to use other tactics including the abduction of foreigners.

A number of foreigners including a Saudi diplomat and a Swiss nationals are still held by Ansar al-Sharia
...a Yemeni Islamist militia which claims it is not part of al-Qaeda, even though it works about the same and for the same ends...
h, an Al-Qaeda linked group, in Abyan.

Local sources of Abyan had said that Al-Qaeda managed to hire rustics to kidnap foreigners and transfer them to South Yemen.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Arab Spring


Brotherhood detainees in UAE make confessions
ABU DHABI: Activists belonging to the Moslem Brüderbund, who were tossed in the clink
Yez got nuttin' on me, coppers! Nuttin'!
in the UAE in a legal rights case, are being tried based on the Article No.180 of the Penal Code which bans establishing clandestine organizations, official sources revealed to Al Khaleej newspaper.

The sources categorically denied claims that the detainees have been tortured, asserting that the allegation is pure fabrication.

The sources stressed that torture is not in tune with values of the Emirates; nor does it conform to the qualities of the country's Rulers.

Al Khaleej newspaper learnt that the Public Prosecution has gone a long way in the interrogation of 60 detainees, whose cases would be referred to the concerned court soon. Some of them acknowledged the presence of a clandestine organization in the country to which they belong, the official sources said.

The activists also admitted that they have sought to collect money, investments and portfolio of their own, adding that they communicate with the international organization of the Moslem Brüderbund and other bodies.

The prosecution learnt that they run branches and offices to promote their ideas all over the Emirates. Members of the organization also admitted that they took advantage of the Arab Spring and their strategic objective is to seize power and establish a religious government or the State of Caliphate.

The prosecution charged the detainees with forming an organization that does harm to the state security and the principles on which the state is based on, in addition to having contacts with foreign communities, in a bid to doing harm to the politicianship.

Interrogations have revealed that the leadership structure of that organization includes committees and secondary offices in each emirate, in addition to a Shura council, an executive office and a military wing.

The sources affirmed that the technique of the organization relies on hitting the legitimacy of the country, spreading fabricated stories about corruption allegations, and degrading the prosperous living conditions in which people live in the UAE as fake and illusive.

It was affirmed also that they have extensive co-ordination with Brotherhood in some GCC countries. The Brotherhood of the UAE received Dhs10 million, as "the local organization suffers tough conditions at the moment."  

The sources also denied a rumour that the accused are not able to hire a lawyer and pointed out that there are eight lawyers defending them.

They estimated the number of people who joined the organization or those affected by it at hundreds and less than 1,000, underlining the neutral and fair legal procedures taken by the UAE in dealing with this case, considering that the UAE is a state of justice, constitution, law and institutions and that the proceedings would be announced transparently where those involved will be justly treated.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Muslim Brotherhood


Bangladesh
Nizami, Mojaheed tortured Rumi, Altaf
[Bangla Daily Star] Jamaat leaders Nizami and Mojaheed tortured martyred freedom fighter Rumi and musician Altaf Mahmud at a camp of the Mighty Pak Army in Nakhalpara of Dhaka, said a witness before the International Crimes Tribunal-2 yesterday.

Rumi and Altaf never came home as Nizami and Mojaheed decided to have them killed, said second prosecution witness and freedom fighter Zahir Uddin Jalal in the war crimes case against Mojaheed.

Jalal was also in the camp and was brutally tortured by Jamaat Ameer Motiur Rahman Nizami
...During the liberation war of 1971, Nizami formed the Al-Badr Force and acted as its supreme commander. The Al-Badr militia took active part in rape, extortion, looting and killing of Bangladeshis who supported the liberation, including a pre-planned massacre on December 14, 1971, when the Al-Badr militia along with Pakistan Army rounded up hundreds of doctors, professors, writers, and other Bengali intellectuals, and executed them...
and Jamaat Secretary General Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mojaheed, the witness said.

Mojaheed and Nizami also tortured Jalal's fellow fighters at the camp apart from Altaf and Rumi, son of Shaheed Janani Jahanara Imam, during the Liberation War.

Jalal was lucky to have escaped death as a Pakistain government official rescued him, the witness said.

Jalal had heard Mojaheed and Nizami ask a Pak captain to have Rumi, Altaf and himself killed.

"We assumed that Mojaheed, Nizami and their cohorts had killed them before the proclamation of the President's clemency as we did not get any information about them afterwards," said Jalal.

Jalal, also known as Bichchhu Jalal, yesterday appeared before the Tribunal-2, 41 years after the war, and narrated his horrific ordeal at the camp.

Mojaheed, who was in the dock, listened to the vivid description from the "direct victim" and an eyewitness yesterday. Mojaheed is facing seven charges of crimes against humanity, including murder, genocide and hatching a conspiracy to kill intellectuals during the nine-month-long war.

The 57-year-old witness said he had hurled a grenade at an Al-Badr rally at Chawkbazar, aiming it at Mojaheed on December 4, 1971, and the news of the rally was published with photos in newspapers.

During his four hours and 20 minutes of testimony, Jalal said Nizami, Mojaheed and other Al-Badr men used to torture intellectuals and freedom fighters before killing them at Mohammadpur Physical Training College during the war.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Jamaat-e-Islami


Home Front: Politix
G Gordon Liddy retires at 82
Posted by: Dale || 09/21/2012 06:34 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good! Maybe we'll see less of him on teevee. Never cared for guys who wear military awards and decorations on their business suits. Makes them look like Russian Great Patriotic War veterans. Sorry Congressman West, it's just a personal thing with me. I should probably get over it.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/21/2012 7:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe they are great patriots?
Posted by: Cleart Thrater7665 || 09/21/2012 8:10 Comments || Top||

#3  military awards and decorations on their business suits

There seem to be official protocols for absolutely everything in the military - what's official protocol for military awards on civilian attire?
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/21/2012 8:29 Comments || Top||

#4  The G-Man, man, I love that guy. I have a 5x7 autographed photo of him as he appeared back in the Watergate days.

Used to keep it prominently displayed on my desk at work when I was out in Silicon Valley. Right next to my photo of Nixon. It agitated the crap out of the liberal asshats.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 09/21/2012 9:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Nixon thought he had an administration above the law. Obama also thinks he is above the law. I didn't like it then and don't like it now. Nixon paved the way for an inept, weak President--Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/21/2012 9:31 Comments || Top||

#6  "He kept his mouth shut and took his lumps."
Posted by: mojo || 09/21/2012 11:48 Comments || Top||

#7  He must have thought a great deal of Nixon personally to keep his trap shut and get kicked around as much as he did.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 09/21/2012 11:54 Comments || Top||

#8 
Nixon thought he had an administration above the law.


More accurately, Nixon figured he could do the same things the Democrats had been doing for decades and get away with it.

I saw Liddy in person while I was in college. He and Timothy Leary were doing a speaking tour where they went head-to-head. Liddy definitely was the more coherent and personable of the two.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/21/2012 12:26 Comments || Top||

#9  I caught him bugging my house the other day. I told him if he didn't stop - I'd take his name off Social Security :-)
Posted by: Raider || 09/21/2012 12:53 Comments || Top||

#10  That's funny Raider. Taking away his SS. Somehow, I don't think he needs it to survive. Probably did O.K.

Liddy did know how to keep his mouth shut and take his lumps. I liked listening to his radio show when he was on. A smart guy.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/21/2012 14:19 Comments || Top||

#11  More accurately, Nixon figured he could do the same things the Democrats had been doing for decades and get away with it.

That is more accurate. The Corruptocrats are still plugging away to undermine things.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/21/2012 14:25 Comments || Top||

#12  "Taking away his SS. Somehow, I don't think he needs it to survive. Probably did O.K." yes, very well. He earned it. He had a place near Upperville Virginia. Horse riding country. Kennedy's had property in the area also. Wealthy area. When I was on a property a Fox hunt was on. They can charge right through local properties.
Posted by: Dale || 09/21/2012 15:23 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Lawmakers to Obama: Get your story straight on Libya attack
Posted by: tipper || 09/21/2012 13:34 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


The eight dumbest things said about free speech this week
Posted by: tipper || 09/21/2012 12:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Broken link. Unless it's another link to zerohedge, in which case a broken link is a better outcome.
Posted by: gromky || 09/21/2012 13:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Link
Zerohedge is a fight club, the ultimate in free speech.
Posted by: tipper || 09/21/2012 14:07 Comments || Top||

#3  If Romney gets elected the very first thing he should do is sack General Martin Dempsey.

He can talk all he wants about the risks to our service men and women. I've listened to a few who are not afraid to defend our freedom. They are brave young people. I salute them. If the politicians and the generals don't want to let them fight then bring them home.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/21/2012 16:13 Comments || Top||


Fed Judge Rules In Favor Of Attack Ads At MTA Stations Targeting Radical Muslims
[CBS] A legal fight over freedom of speech is spilling into New York's subway tunnels. A sign about "Jihad" is set to debut next week. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority says it crosses the line, but a judge disagrees.

On the region's subways and buses, most ads we see don't get much attention. But that may change with a pro-Israel ad that will soon grace MTA property which reads: "In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat jihad."

The ad is a clear swipe against radical Muslims.

"It's going to create problems for no reason, you know?" Maguid El Ghazzawi of Astoria told CBS 2's Sean Hennessey on Wednesday night.

At a Manhattan Mosque, not all were pleased with the fact the ad will soon go public.

"It is negative, not positive," Harlem's Abdus Khan said.

"I think it is something stupid. For somebody they are very ignorant," El Ghazzawi said.

For almost a year, the MTA fought the running of the ad, saying the words "savage" and "jihad" demean a group, but in the lawsuit a federal judge ruled that barring the ad violated the First Amendment and the "....fundamental importance of the free flow of ideas..."

"What the court said, 'no demeaning' is too general a phrase," said Leon Friedman, a constitutional law expert at Hofstra University. "Government just can't say 'I like this ad, I don't like that ad.' They just can't do that."

While the MTA said its hands are tied, the ad's sponsor celebrated the victory.

"Political speech is the most protected speech," said Pamela Geller of the American Freedom Defense Initiative.

Geller said the ad isn't anti-Muslim, but a response to an anti-Israeli ad the MTA ran last year.

"Honestly anyone that disagrees with me, I would take a bullet for their right to disagree with me. This is the beauty of America, the free exchange of ideas," Geller said.

On the subways, some said they understand the court's wisdom.

"I don't necessarily agree with what the ad says, but you shouldn't be suppressing free speech," said Doug Quayle of Darien, Conn.

While others said the ad should be derailed.

"I feel like it's disrespectful to other cultures," said Ayana Sanchez of Union City, N.J.

The MTA said it may revise its advertising standards. In the meantime, the ads will be seen on subway platforms beginning next week. The ads will be seen in 10 Manhattan subways stations and will run for a month.
Posted by: Beavis || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The ad is a clear swipe against radical Muslims.

Only if you consider radical Muslims to be uncivilized savages.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/21/2012 1:23 Comments || Top||

#2  The history of thriving civilizations appear to have at least one major factor in common. They require a populous that remains CIVIL!

Civility is guaranteed through the Rule of Law. Most, if not everyone here is aware of the Judeo-Christian basis of our Rule of Law. Most here are also aware of the basis of so called Muslim Law.

Therein lies the problem. Like oil and water, the two do not mix well. In the oil patch, a pipeline leak can result in contaminated water supplies. If livestock, cows in particular find crude oil on the surface of the ground, or in a pond, they will stand there and drink it until they fall over dead.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/21/2012 7:21 Comments || Top||

#3  "Defeat jihad" IS a clear swipe against radical Muslims. That's a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/21/2012 9:05 Comments || Top||

#4 

Pamela Geller strikes at the Mohammedans again.
Posted by: Anginens Clunk4837 || 09/21/2012 10:31 Comments || Top||

#5  All your think tanks and agencies are beyond past compromised by them!




#16 Quds force on this page is friendly and this is from Rand corp same page! Know why you are being killed the real reasons!

Ismail Bin Zakkaria Zakkaria
Oct 23, 2011 - Public
The first step is for the U.S. government and its allies to make a
clear decision to build moderate networks and to create an explicit link
between this goal and overall U.S. strategy and programs. Effective
implementation of this strategy requires the creation of an institutional
structure within the U.S. government to guide, support, oversee, and
continuously monitor the effort. Within the framework of this structure,
the U.S. government must build up the necessary expertise and
capacity to execute the strategy, which includes

1. An ever-evolving and ever-sharpening set of criteria that distinguishes
true moderates from opportunists and from extremists
camouflaged as moderates, and liberal secularists from authoritarian
secularists. The U.S. government needs to have the ability
to make situational decisions to knowingly and for tactical
reasons support individuals outside of that range under specific
circumstances.

2. An international database of partners (individuals, groups, organizations,
institutions, parties, etc.)

3. Mechanisms for monitoring, refining, and overseeing programs,
projects, and decisions. These should include a feedback loop to
allow for inputs and corrections from those partners who have
been found to be most trustworthy.
From the book called "Building Moderate Muslim Networks" by Rand Corporations
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 09/21/2012 18:39 Comments || Top||

#6  See also DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > ANTI-JIHAD "SAVAGES" ADZ GOING UP IN NYC SUBWAYS.

versus

* SAME > SAUDI ARABIA: WORLD ISLAMIC BODY PUSHES FOR GLOBAL ANTI-BLASPHENY LAW. Human Rights Commission of the inter-Islamic OIC.

* DAILY TIMES.PK > TIME FOR [World "Ummah"] MUSLIMS TO UNITE, SAYS RAJA.

Pak PM Raja Pervez Ashraf.

* SAME > [World/International] MUSLIMS PROTEST FILM, CARTOONS AMID DEATH CALLS.

ARTIC = Libyuhn Clerics call on Saudi Arabia + Egyptian Al-Azhar to ISSUE FATWAS CONDONING DEATH OF ANYONE = MURDER ASSOCIATED WID ANTI-MUSLIM/MOHAMMED FILM.

Technically speaking, fatwas could apply to POTUS Bammer + Admin???

* SAME > [JD Chief Saeed deamnds Pak Govt give ...]ULTIMATUM TO US: CRIMINALIZE [anti-Islamic] BLASPHEMY [in US], OR LOSE CONSULATE(S) IN PAKISTAN.

* TOPIX, WORLD NEWS > ISRAELI OFFICIAL: WORLD AFTER IRAN STRIKE SIMILAR TO VIOLENT ANTI-FILM PROTESTS.

* CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [DM Ahmad Vahidi]IRAN OFFICIAL: "BIG WAR" MEANS MAHDI COMING, MILITARY LEADER TIES "LAST MESSIAH" TO REGIME'S PREPARATION FOR CONFLICT.

Iran + World in "ERA OF [Mahdi's/Hidden Imam's]COMING"; US-IRAN WAR IS A [religiously?] SIGNIFICANT WAR FOR SHIAS + ISLAM.

Son???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/22/2012 0:05 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan blocks cell phones on prophet protest day
Pakistan has blocked cell phone service in major cities to prevent militants from using phones to detonate bombs during a national day of protest against an anti-Islam film produced in the United States.

An Interior Ministry official says the service is blocked in at least 15 cities, including Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad. The service is scheduled to be resumed at 6 p.m. local time.

The ministry official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

The government has declared Friday a national holiday and has encouraged people to peacefully protest a film that denigrates Islam's Prophet Muhammad.

The film has sparked violent protests throughout the Muslim world that have left at least 30 people dead, including two in Pakistan.
Posted by: tipper || 09/21/2012 03:32 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:


U.S. warns Americans against travel to Pakistan
[Al Ahram] The State Department warns Americans of travelling to Pakistain, citing 'indigenous hard boy sectarian groups' as a 'potential danger'
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Rats! There goes this year's vacation plans. And I was so looking forward to visiting Abbotabad. That's where bin Laden got shot in the face, you know.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/21/2012 1:09 Comments || Top||

#2  "After my election, we'll have much more flexibility regarding travel."

*See EO-238821L: US Embassy to Madrassa closures and trasition plan funding.

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/21/2012 7:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Er, when is it a good time to visit?
Posted by: F(r)an Galt || 09/21/2012 11:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Hi there, Angiting Snore1647!
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DAMMIT, WAKE UP!
h/t Instapundit
There is a mystery about this election. The slanted national press and Romney's weaknesses are well understood, but a large gap separates these explanations from the fact that needs explaining: this election will be close. How is that possible when Obama has shown himself to be the worst president in modern history? And when Romney (on the other hand) is unexciting but safe, serious, solid--just the right sort of man to shelter all sorts of tempest-tost Americans in a storm?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-09-21 06:49|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| ||Comments [282 views ] Top

#1 I pay no attention to the polls. Look at Gallup what happened when they came close to showing the truth. The old media is in the tank for the Democrats period. More people are now losing jobs, good jobs like coal and defense. I talked to a young woman that had to quit college and now must work full time to support her future husband and child. He just lost his computer related job with a defense company. He is now working on his masters she said. Just basics, wick program but too little to help. No extra money for anything.
Many anti Obama signs in my coal area also. I truthfully believe we will hear a loud flushing sound at election time. While still in office he will pull as many dirty tricks as he can, pardons and so on.
Posted by Dale 2012-09-21 07:06|| 2012-09-21 07:06|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#2 I pray you are right Dale.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-09-21 07:11|| 2012-09-21 07:11|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#3 Housing fraud-government buys all the paper no boots on ground like Russia
Keeps printing money
Prices are going through roof on everything
Smaller quantity in food containers at stores
using food crops for inferior energy for entire country
Farming all jobs over seas
Corruption is beyond obvious
Gold what crap can't eat it
Troops spread across globe
All sorts of useless lies and leaders yet putting on the complete opposite air on television and the internet
What do people really believe?
Posted by Angiting Snore1647 2012-09-21 07:38|| 2012-09-21 07:38|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#4 I think the media will stay in the tank until after the debates. At that point they may try to regain credibility if it looks like Obama is the weak horse despite their attempts.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-09-21 08:29|| 2012-09-21 08:29|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#5 Reagan was behind Carter in late October in 1980. He won the election with 489 electoral votes. Carter got something like 44. Carter screwed up the Iran crisis and the economy was terrible, similar kind of phenomenon today with Obama. It's a little more complicated today as there are other factors that have entered this election.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 09:05|| 2012-09-21 09:05|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#6 1. Public education.

2. Independents are emotional voters. They don;t know and don't care about policy. They want to be excited, and Romney isn't exciting.

3. The polls are bald lies. At the last instant they'll skew toward Romney to try and save some credibility, but they will never show anything but a horse race until then.
Posted by Iblis 2012-09-21 09:50|| 2012-09-21 09:50|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#7 Give me a guy or a gal who in unexciting but competetent--someone who can actually do something. I don't want some dumb a** Hollywood celebrity as President.

Margaret Thatcher said: "Socialism ends when it runs out of other people's money."
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 10:48|| 2012-09-21 10:48|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#8 "who in is unexciting." Sorry, my proofing missed this.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 10:49|| 2012-09-21 10:49|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#9 JohnQC:

You are not an independent voter would be my guess.

One additional feature of the 'I' voter is that they follow the crowd. If the party base gets excited that's enough for them. They'll get excited too. Worked for Reagan. Worked for Champ in '08. Not working this year, though you saw it briefly with the Ryan pick.

Also, if the Independents remain undecided at the end they overwhelmingly break for the challenger.
Posted by Iblis 2012-09-21 11:56|| 2012-09-21 11:56|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#10 Reagan was exciting but he was also eminently competent and courageous enough to take a stand.

I'm afraid Romney needs to kick it up a notch or else he's going to lose the same way John McCain did. When he went in front of Univision he talked about the 100 percent. Bullshit. He had a moment of candor when he talked about the 47 percent but he let the media convince him it was a gaffe. It was only a gaffe because he let them say it was. All he had to do to justify it was ask people if they want to be dependent or independent. That's what it's all about.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-09-21 12:10|| 2012-09-21 12:10|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#11

The polls are bald lies. At the last instant they'll skew toward Romney to try and save some credibility, but they will never show anything but a horse race until then.



The polls show what they're paid to show -- which is exactly what you describe. The press wants to show a "horse race" -- with Obama generally in the lead -- because it brings in a bigger audience.

And, second, polls are just an example of bandwagon propaganda. "The majority are voting for Obama -- you don't want to be an outsider, do you?" It's BS.

The only honest polls are the ones the campaigns pay for -- because they pay for the accuracy and honesty. Those polls must show Romney with a comfortable lead, because most of the efforts the Democrats have made have been in getting their base excited, not in reaching out to the undecided.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2012-09-21 12:30|| 2012-09-21 12:30|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#12 I have low expectations for the debates. I'm actually afraid Obama will mop the floor with Romney - he has no fire in his belly and seems uncomfortable coming on strong. I also want to know where Ryan has been - I haven't heard/seen much of him in over a week. He's got more of what it takes to win than Romney - put him up front!
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2012-09-21 12:51|| 2012-09-21 12:51|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#13 It isn't that the pollsters are paid to show a horserace.

The pollsters are being paid (or lobbied) to suppress the Republican and independent vote.

The logic is simple: show that Obama (or Warren, or any other favored Democrat) is ahead, and there is a certain segment of the public who will stay home on election day. They'll say, "what's the use" and sit it out.

Sounds stupid, right? But it works.

So Axelrod and Plouffe are working hard daily on the pollsters.

Democratic client pollsters like PPP have an additional job: skew the poll averages. You've seen these averages at Real Clear Politics, etc -- they gather up a bunch of recent polls and average them for a 'consensus' number.

So if PPP, by whatever means, consistently shows Champ to be +6, and four other pollsters see it as Romney +1/0, guess what the average is. Yup, Champs keeps his lead.

The Democrats know this works: it was proven in Florida in 2000, when the Gore team had (bought) exit polls showing him in the lead and persuaded CBS to 'call' Florida early. The voters in the panhandle part of the state, in the Central time zone, still had time to go to the polls, but a number didn't. Later polling showed that the voters who stayed home rather than go vote in that last hour would have voted Bush 2:1 over Gore. Enough to tip (or solidify) the election.

A fair number of pollsters are as deep in the tank for Obama as the MSM. Remember that, and remember the Gore trick on election night: Axelrod has plans, I'm sure.
Posted by Steve White 2012-09-21 12:57|| 2012-09-21 12:57|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#14 I never talk to pollsters. Never.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-09-21 13:55|| 2012-09-21 13:55|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#15 #9 JohnQC: You are not an independent voter would be my guess.

I was talking to my neighbor this A.M., a Viet vet. He said we wasn't so much voting for Romney as he was voting against Obama. I agree with him. I think what Obama is doing to this country is an abomination. We both agreed Washington is FUBAR. I will vote for the most conservative candidate that has a chance of winning. In this case it is Romney/Ryan. Independents don't have a good history of winning in this country; they tend to be spoilers--in some cases that is good. There were good people that never emerged beyond the primaries that I liked but that's the nature of the process.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 16:56|| 2012-09-21 16:56|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#16 Quds force on this page is friendly and this is from Rand corp same page! Know why you are being killed the real reasons!

Ismail Bin Zakkaria Zakkaria
Oct 23, 2011 - Public
The first step is for the U.S. government and its allies to make a
clear decision to build moderate networks and to create an explicit link
between this goal and overall U.S. strategy and programs. Effective
implementation of this strategy requires the creation of an institutional
structure within the U.S. government to guide, support, oversee, and
continuously monitor the effort. Within the framework of this structure,
the U.S. government must build up the necessary expertise and
capacity to execute the strategy, which includes

1. An ever-evolving and ever-sharpening set of criteria that distinguishes
true moderates from opportunists and from extremists
camouflaged as moderates, and liberal secularists from authoritarian
secularists. The U.S. government needs to have the ability
to make situational decisions to knowingly and for tactical
reasons support individuals outside of that range under specific
circumstances.

2. An international database of partners (individuals, groups, organizations,
institutions, parties, etc.)

3. Mechanisms for monitoring, refining, and overseeing programs,
projects, and decisions. These should include a feedback loop to
allow for inputs and corrections from those partners who have
been found to be most trustworthy.
From the book called "Building Moderate Muslim Networks" by Rand Corporations
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#5  You're a worthless fool, Angiting.

Mommy hasn't kicked you out of her life basement yet?
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#6  Don't go to the sink trap. It's not worth it.
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Pakistan protests UN listing in 'children and armed conflict' report
The UN Security Council has backed the naming and shaming of governments and gangs that recruit, kill or sexually attack children in armed conflicts over protests from Russia, China, Pakistain and Azerbaijan.

A resolution supporting the UN special representative for children and armed conflict and continuing annual reports by the secretary-general identifying those countries and groups victimising youngsters was approved by a vote of 11-0 with abstentions by the four countries late Wednesday.

The dissenters accused the report's supporters of trying to expand the naming and shaming list to all countries and not sticking to conflicts that the Security Council is dealing with, which is its mandate.

Pakistain also protested that the report includes situations that are not conflicts but acts by gunnies and criminals.

The secretary-general's latest report in June included Pak gangs as well as Syrian government forces and their allied "shabiha" militias on a list of 52 governments and gangs that recruit, kill or sexually attack children in armed conflicts.

The list includes 32 "persistent perpetrators" that have been on the list for at least five years, including the security forces of seven countries.

The resolution calls on member states to bring those responsible for such violations to justice, either through national or international judicial systems.

The Security Council also reiterated its readiness to adopt "targeted and graduated measures" -- a code phrase for sanctions -- against persistent perpetrators.

Pakistain's deputy UN ambassador Raza Bashir Tarar said his government supports reporting on violations in conflicts addressed by the council.

Pakistain is not on the council's agenda and Tarar called allegations against gangs associated with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in the report, "unwarranted and completely misleading."

"This not only misrepresents Pakistain's law enforcement and counter-terrorism measures but also serves to accord undeserved respectability to gunnies and criminals," he said.

China's UN Ambassador Li Baodong called for more international support for Pakistain to fight terrorism "rather than creating difficulties and obstacles."

He insisted that the resolution cannot be interpreted "to equalise the incidents of terrorist attacks in Pakistain to armed conflict," a view echoed by Russia and Azerbaijan.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Pak govt urges UN to act against hate-mongers
[Dawn] A meeting of the federal cabinet was converted into a special sitting on Wednesday to condemn the anti-Islam film which hurt the sentiments of people across the Mohammedan world and set off violent demonstrations in the country.

Instead of taking up the scheduled 14-point agenda, the cabinet unanimously adopted a resolution condemning the highly objectionable film and calling upon international organizations, including the United Nations
...where theory meets practice and practice loses...
and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), to take measures to stop hate-mongers from touching such sensitive subjects.

The cabinet announced Friday would be a national holiday, designating the day as Yaum-e-Ishq-e-Rasool. It urged President Asif Ali Ten Percent Zardari
... husband of the late Benazir Bhutto, who has been singularly lacking in curiosity about who done her in ...
to raise the issue at the UN General Assembly during his visit next week.

Addressing a presser after the meeting, Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira said that since the film was too big an issue to ignore, Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf had decided to convert the session into a special sitting to "send a collective message across the world that we strongly protest any such attempt to denigrate our religion".

He said Shan-e-Rasool ((PTUI!)) conferences would be organised at the federal and provincial levels on Friday. The prime minister will address
the conference at the Convention Centre in Islamabad.

In reply to a question, Mr Kaira said the holiday had been declared to facilitate people to participate in rallies to be organised across the country. He requested the masses to remain peaceful.

Some critics, however, are not happy with the government's decision to declare Friday as a national holiday. They are of the opinion that it will encourage people to participate in demonstrations which may turn violent.

A participant of the meeting told Dawn that it was Interior Minister Rehman Malik
Pak politician, Interior Minister under the Gilani government. Malik is a former Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) intelligence officer who rose to head the FIA during Benazir Bhutto's second tenure. Malik was tossed from his FIA job in 1998 after documenting the breath-taking corruption of the Sharif family. By unhappy coincidence Nawaz Sharif became PM at just that moment and Malik moved to London one step ahead of the button men. He had to give up the interior ministry job because he held dual Brit citizenship.
who had made the proposal to declare Friday as a holiday.

Mr Malik was of the opinion that since massive demonstrations had been planned by religious organizations for Friday, protesters might turn violent and damage private and public properties. Therefore, he suggested, it was better to have a holiday to minimise the chances of loot and arson, according to the participant.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  How many hate mongers in Pakistan?
Posted by: Fester Clunter7205 || 09/21/2012 16:02 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
UN chief says anti-Islam film 'disgraceful, shameless'
[Al Ahram] UN chief the ephemeral Ban Ki-moon
... of whom it can be said to his credit that he is not Kofi Annan...
slams anti-Islam Internet video, pointing out that freedom of expression should not be a 'disgraceful and shameful' act
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hi there, Angiting Snore1647!
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2012-09-21 Home Front: Culture Wars
DAMMIT, WAKE UP!
h/t Instapundit
There is a mystery about this election. The slanted national press and Romney's weaknesses are well understood, but a large gap separates these explanations from the fact that needs explaining: this election will be close. How is that possible when Obama has shown himself to be the worst president in modern history? And when Romney (on the other hand) is unexciting but safe, serious, solid--just the right sort of man to shelter all sorts of tempest-tost Americans in a storm?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-09-21 06:49|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| ||Comments [282 views ] Top

#1 I pay no attention to the polls. Look at Gallup what happened when they came close to showing the truth. The old media is in the tank for the Democrats period. More people are now losing jobs, good jobs like coal and defense. I talked to a young woman that had to quit college and now must work full time to support her future husband and child. He just lost his computer related job with a defense company. He is now working on his masters she said. Just basics, wick program but too little to help. No extra money for anything.
Many anti Obama signs in my coal area also. I truthfully believe we will hear a loud flushing sound at election time. While still in office he will pull as many dirty tricks as he can, pardons and so on.
Posted by Dale 2012-09-21 07:06|| 2012-09-21 07:06|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#2 I pray you are right Dale.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-09-21 07:11|| 2012-09-21 07:11|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#3 Housing fraud-government buys all the paper no boots on ground like Russia
Keeps printing money
Prices are going through roof on everything
Smaller quantity in food containers at stores
using food crops for inferior energy for entire country
Farming all jobs over seas
Corruption is beyond obvious
Gold what crap can't eat it
Troops spread across globe
All sorts of useless lies and leaders yet putting on the complete opposite air on television and the internet
What do people really believe?
Posted by Angiting Snore1647 2012-09-21 07:38|| 2012-09-21 07:38|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#4 I think the media will stay in the tank until after the debates. At that point they may try to regain credibility if it looks like Obama is the weak horse despite their attempts.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-09-21 08:29|| 2012-09-21 08:29|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#5 Reagan was behind Carter in late October in 1980. He won the election with 489 electoral votes. Carter got something like 44. Carter screwed up the Iran crisis and the economy was terrible, similar kind of phenomenon today with Obama. It's a little more complicated today as there are other factors that have entered this election.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 09:05|| 2012-09-21 09:05|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#6 1. Public education.

2. Independents are emotional voters. They don;t know and don't care about policy. They want to be excited, and Romney isn't exciting.

3. The polls are bald lies. At the last instant they'll skew toward Romney to try and save some credibility, but they will never show anything but a horse race until then.
Posted by Iblis 2012-09-21 09:50|| 2012-09-21 09:50|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#7 Give me a guy or a gal who in unexciting but competetent--someone who can actually do something. I don't want some dumb a** Hollywood celebrity as President.

Margaret Thatcher said: "Socialism ends when it runs out of other people's money."
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 10:48|| 2012-09-21 10:48|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#8 "who in is unexciting." Sorry, my proofing missed this.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 10:49|| 2012-09-21 10:49|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#9 JohnQC:

You are not an independent voter would be my guess.

One additional feature of the 'I' voter is that they follow the crowd. If the party base gets excited that's enough for them. They'll get excited too. Worked for Reagan. Worked for Champ in '08. Not working this year, though you saw it briefly with the Ryan pick.

Also, if the Independents remain undecided at the end they overwhelmingly break for the challenger.
Posted by Iblis 2012-09-21 11:56|| 2012-09-21 11:56|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#10 Reagan was exciting but he was also eminently competent and courageous enough to take a stand.

I'm afraid Romney needs to kick it up a notch or else he's going to lose the same way John McCain did. When he went in front of Univision he talked about the 100 percent. Bullshit. He had a moment of candor when he talked about the 47 percent but he let the media convince him it was a gaffe. It was only a gaffe because he let them say it was. All he had to do to justify it was ask people if they want to be dependent or independent. That's what it's all about.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-09-21 12:10|| 2012-09-21 12:10|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#11

The polls are bald lies. At the last instant they'll skew toward Romney to try and save some credibility, but they will never show anything but a horse race until then.



The polls show what they're paid to show -- which is exactly what you describe. The press wants to show a "horse race" -- with Obama generally in the lead -- because it brings in a bigger audience.

And, second, polls are just an example of bandwagon propaganda. "The majority are voting for Obama -- you don't want to be an outsider, do you?" It's BS.

The only honest polls are the ones the campaigns pay for -- because they pay for the accuracy and honesty. Those polls must show Romney with a comfortable lead, because most of the efforts the Democrats have made have been in getting their base excited, not in reaching out to the undecided.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2012-09-21 12:30|| 2012-09-21 12:30|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#12 I have low expectations for the debates. I'm actually afraid Obama will mop the floor with Romney - he has no fire in his belly and seems uncomfortable coming on strong. I also want to know where Ryan has been - I haven't heard/seen much of him in over a week. He's got more of what it takes to win than Romney - put him up front!
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2012-09-21 12:51|| 2012-09-21 12:51|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#13 It isn't that the pollsters are paid to show a horserace.

The pollsters are being paid (or lobbied) to suppress the Republican and independent vote.

The logic is simple: show that Obama (or Warren, or any other favored Democrat) is ahead, and there is a certain segment of the public who will stay home on election day. They'll say, "what's the use" and sit it out.

Sounds stupid, right? But it works.

So Axelrod and Plouffe are working hard daily on the pollsters.

Democratic client pollsters like PPP have an additional job: skew the poll averages. You've seen these averages at Real Clear Politics, etc -- they gather up a bunch of recent polls and average them for a 'consensus' number.

So if PPP, by whatever means, consistently shows Champ to be +6, and four other pollsters see it as Romney +1/0, guess what the average is. Yup, Champs keeps his lead.

The Democrats know this works: it was proven in Florida in 2000, when the Gore team had (bought) exit polls showing him in the lead and persuaded CBS to 'call' Florida early. The voters in the panhandle part of the state, in the Central time zone, still had time to go to the polls, but a number didn't. Later polling showed that the voters who stayed home rather than go vote in that last hour would have voted Bush 2:1 over Gore. Enough to tip (or solidify) the election.

A fair number of pollsters are as deep in the tank for Obama as the MSM. Remember that, and remember the Gore trick on election night: Axelrod has plans, I'm sure.
Posted by Steve White 2012-09-21 12:57|| 2012-09-21 12:57|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#14 I never talk to pollsters. Never.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-09-21 13:55|| 2012-09-21 13:55|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#15 #9 JohnQC: You are not an independent voter would be my guess.

I was talking to my neighbor this A.M., a Viet vet. He said we wasn't so much voting for Romney as he was voting against Obama. I agree with him. I think what Obama is doing to this country is an abomination. We both agreed Washington is FUBAR. I will vote for the most conservative candidate that has a chance of winning. In this case it is Romney/Ryan. Independents don't have a good history of winning in this country; they tend to be spoilers--in some cases that is good. There were good people that never emerged beyond the primaries that I liked but that's the nature of the process.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-09-21 16:56|| 2012-09-21 16:56|| Front Page ||Comments Top

#16 Quds force on this page is friendly and this is from Rand corp same page! Know why you are being killed the real reasons!

Ismail Bin Zakkaria Zakkaria
Oct 23, 2011 - Public
The first step is for the U.S. government and its allies to make a
clear decision to build moderate networks and to create an explicit link
between this goal and overall U.S. strategy and programs. Effective
implementation of this strategy requires the creation of an institutional
structure within the U.S. government to guide, support, oversee, and
continuously monitor the effort. Within the framework of this structure,
the U.S. government must build up the necessary expertise and
capacity to execute the strategy, which includes

1. An ever-evolving and ever-sharpening set of criteria that distinguishes
true moderates from opportunists and from extremists
camouflaged as moderates, and liberal secularists from authoritarian
secularists. The U.S. government needs to have the ability
to make situational decisions to knowingly and for tactical
reasons support individuals outside of that range under specific
circumstances.

2. An international database of partners (individuals, groups, organizations,
institutions, parties, etc.)

3. Mechanisms for monitoring, refining, and overseeing programs,
projects, and decisions. These should include a feedback loop to
allow for inputs and corrections from those partners who have
been found to be most trustworthy.
From the book called "Building Moderate Muslim Networks" by Rand Corporations
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Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 09/21/2012 18:37 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Iraq blocks Syria-bound N Korean plane, suspects weapons cargo
Iraq denied permission to a North Korean plane bound for Syria to pass through Iraqi airspace last Saturday because it suspected it could be carrying weapons, a senior official said on Friday.

Iraq on Thursday denied a Western intelligence report that said Iranian aircraft had flown weapons and military personnel over Iraqi airspace to Syria to help President Bashar al-Assad battle an 18-month-old uprising.

The allegation, reported by Reuters on Wednesday, said arms transfers were organised by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

"Continuing the Iraqi government policy to investigate the passing of weapons to Syria through Iraqi land and air space, the Iraqi authorities prevented a North Korean plane from going to Syria, after they suspected that the plane was shipping weapons," Ali al-Mossawi, media advisor to the Iraq's prime minister, told Reuters.

Moussawi said the scheduled plane's itinerary, from North Korea to Syria, was what had aroused suspicions but that there had been no contact between the Iraqi government and North Korea on the issue.

Mossawi said that despite repeated requests from the Iraqi side, the United States had not presented any evidence that Iranian civilian aircraft were shipping arms to Syria via Iraq.
Posted by: tipper || 09/21/2012 07:58 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


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USA, peace treaties at risk if Israel attacks Iran
h/t Gates of Vienna
Egypt and Jordan could tear up their peace treaties with Israel if it launched an attack against Iran.
The practical consequences of which would be...
Israeli sources told Yediot Aharonot that this was the content of a warning that the Obama administration sent to Bibi Netanyahu. In particular, Washington pointed out that, in the event of an Israeli raid, protests in Cairo and Amman may force their leaders to take drastic steps. "Today the Arab leaders do not control their peoples, the streets control the leaders," was the American explanation. "An Israeli strike is just what the Iranians need. The entire Arab and Muslim street will take to the streets to demonstrate," and the pressure to annul the accords would be huge.

In this sense, the US warned, "What happened with the film against Mohammad is just a preview of what will happen in case of an Israeli strike." . .
And they say marijuana is harmless
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/21/2012 01:46 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What about the Pakistan connection and the think tank in Maryland and the savage and Israel sign brought to by the same group that has done everything else! Kabob cart man leader of Afghanistan tall pale and sun glasses!
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 09/21/2012 7:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Fingers Away!
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 09/21/2012 7:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Egypt and Jordan could tear up their peace treaties with Israel if it launched an attack against Iran.

Meaningless, expired coupons. Anyone who ever thought they meant anything (other than a USAID guarantee) was or is nuts.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/21/2012 7:43 Comments || Top||

#4  What is at risk if Israel doesn't attack Iran?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/21/2012 9:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Keep in mind that the objective of the ruling elites is to maintain Stability that includes an 'acceptable level of violence', and a related industry that provides suitable and profitable employment for its members.

That's why the Cold War went on for decades.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/21/2012 11:39 Comments || Top||

#6  If Israel hits Iran - its a fair bet that they will not only find themselves "at war" with all their neighbors, but they may also be shunned by many western countries as well.

It's fair to say that PM Benjamin Netanyahu and Chief of Staff Benny Gantz face the toughest decisions that have ever confronted Israeli leaders - since the country was founded.
Posted by: Raider || 09/21/2012 13:05 Comments || Top||

#7  If Israel hits the Iranian nuke sites, you can also bet Hamas and Hezbollah will enter. Israel will not hold back this time. The islamists operating in the Sinai will also likely stir up trouble for Israel.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/21/2012 14:14 Comments || Top||

#8  JohnQC ... those fateful words describe the next conflict. "Will not hold back this time".

The truth is that no-one in this war will be holding back this time ... including Israel, Hezbollah, Iran, AQ and various proxies. I have to imagine that the estimate that Israel will lose only "500 men" is drastically low. I also think that there's not much that's going to be left of southern Lebanon.
Posted by: Raider || 09/21/2012 16:00 Comments || Top||


Arab nuclear "goodwill gesture" fails to impress Israel, U.S
(Reuters) - Arab states said on Thursday they had decided as a "goodwill gesture" to refrain from targeting Israel with a resolution over its assumed nuclear arsenal at the U.N. atomic agency's annual assembly this week.
What generosity of spirit, to be sure.
Arab envoys said the move was in support of wider efforts to rid the region of nuclear weapons,
Uh huh.
but it drew no public praise from Israel or the United States, which criticised the placing of the issue on the agenda in the first place.

Addressing a debate on "Israeli nuclear capabilities" called by the Arab countries, a senior U.S. diplomat said Washington was firmly committed to the goal of a Middle East free of weapons of mass destruction.

However,
nothing needs reforming like other people's bad habits...
"using meetings of the IAEA to single out Israel for censure will not take us one step closer to that goal. In fact, it is a step in the opposite direction," Robert Wood told the meeting of the U.N.'s ineffective International Atomic Energy Agency.

"Repeatedly invoking this issue only serves to reduce trust and confidence among states in the region and to distract the agency's attention from serious issues of ongoing non-compliance by two other states in the region," Wood said.

That was a reference to Iran and Syria, which are under investigation by the IAEA over their disputed atomic activities.

Israeli ambassador Ehud Azoulay said: "It is Iran which represents the greatest threat to peace and security in the Middle East and beyond ... Pointing an accusing finger toward Israel will not change this sombre reality."

Arab states had sharply criticised Israel but said they would not put forward a non-binding but symbolically important resolution calling on Israel to join the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and place all its atomic sites under IAEA oversight.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That calls for a return goodwill gesture from Israel. How about "We won't nuke you, for now."?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/21/2012 2:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Ir did not impress the US because its timing conflicted with a fund raiser.
Posted by: Kelly || 09/21/2012 16:17 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran preparing internal version of Internet
[Washington Post] The Iranian government, determined to limit Western influence and defend itself against cyberattacks, appears to have laid the technical foundations for a national online network that would be detached from the Internet and permit tighter control over the flow of information.

The concept of a self-contained network has been reverberating within Iran for almost a decade and has often been treated with skepticism, given the significant investment in infrastructure and security that would be required. But Iranian officials and outside experts say that development of the network has accelerated following cyberattacks aimed at the country's nuclear program.

Last month, Iran's communications and information technology minister unveiled a plan to take key government agencies and military outfits offline and onto the new network by the end of September. U.S. security researchers say they are for the first time seeing evidence of an operational network that is consistent with Iran's publicly stated plans.

The researchers, working under the auspices of the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Global Communications Studies, say in a report to be released this week that they have found functional versions of the sites of government ministries, universities and businesses on the network. They also found evidence of an already operational filtering capability.

At the core of the network was high-end equipment manufactured by the Chinese firm Huawei that is capable of sophisticated online surveillance of traffic. The network is already "internally consistent and widely reachable," concluded the report, a copy of which was provided to The Washington Post.

William Plummer, vice president for external affairs at Huawei, said: "Huawei has not sold equipment to the Iranian government nor does it support monitoring traffic. Huawei only sells commercial equipment built to global standards to commercial operators."

The findings are likely to worry Internet freedom activists and the Obama administration, which has spent tens of millions of dollars on initiatives designed to ease access to the Internet in Iran and other countries with repressive governments. Officials had expressed concerns even before the release of the latest research.

"We have concerns from not only a human rights perspective, but about the integrity of the Internet," David Baer, deputy assistant secretary for the State Department's Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, said in an interview. "When countries section off parts of the Web, not only do their citizens suffer, everyone does."

Experts say the Iranian government has a handful of reasons to establish a state-run alternative to the Internet. A protected Iran-only network could help officials counter U.S.-funded programs that allow Iranian activists to evade online surveillance. It could also help insulate Iranian computers from a covert campaign of cyberattacks that Iranian officials assert the United States and Israel continue to wage.
Posted by: Fred || 09/21/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran



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